so when it comes to dwarf retics...

ive heard of dwarf, and super dwarf retics, and i was wondering how big the average size is for each, cause i really want a retic, just not a full blown one, or like a 6 foot one. i'd rather it max out at like10-13ft, is that a realistic goal for a retic, or is it too indeterminable (spelling? actually, is it even a word lol?) to even say?

I'll tell you what I know. I'm sure there are others more knowledgable than me who will chime in, but I asked the same questions myself as I was interested.

Super Dwarf retics are from a super small locality of retic, getting around 6 foot. A dwarf retic usually means it is a super dwarf/regular retic mix.

Note--there aren't any morphs from the super dwarfs, so if you see 'het albino SUPER dwarf", it's not really a super dwarf, just a 'dwarf' since it's a mix of the two.

The issue with dwarves is they have a lot of wiggle room size-wise. Some can be very small, some end up very large. I've heard if you get a line of dwarves with parents and grandparents that are all similar sizes you can get a decent idea of how big they will get, but it's still no guarentee. Plus, it seems most people just have a straight up mix from a super dwarf to a normal, or dwarf to a normal, so you get some pretty random genetics going on.

Generally they SHOULD even out around the middle, but they can still get pretty big. I've seen a dwarf that was over 12 foot, and a sibling/clutchmate to that adult that was still around 6 foot at the same age.


I think it's best to expect them to be large, and prepare for that, but be pleasantly surprised if they end up at a reasonable length! Better than expecting them to be small, and having to scrounge together a big cage on the spot! :O

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Originally Posted by purplemuffin

I'll tell you what I know. I'm sure there are others more knowledgable than me who will chime in, but I asked the same questions myself as I was interested.

Super Dwarf retics are from a super small locality of retic, getting around 6 foot. A dwarf retic usually means it is a super dwarf/regular retic mix.

Note--there aren't any morphs from the super dwarfs, so if you see 'het albino SUPER dwarf", it's not really a super dwarf, just a 'dwarf' since it's a mix of the two.

The issue with dwarves is they have a lot of wiggle room size-wise. Some can be very small, some end up very large. I've heard if you get a line of dwarves with parents and grandparents that are all similar sizes you can get a decent idea of how big they will get, but it's still no guarentee. Plus, it seems most people just have a straight up mix from a super dwarf to a normal, or dwarf to a normal, so you get some pretty random genetics going on.

Generally they SHOULD even out around the middle, but they can still get pretty big. I've seen a dwarf that was over 12 foot, and a sibling/clutchmate to that adult that was still around 6 foot at the same age.


I think it's best to expect them to be large, and prepare for that, but be pleasantly surprised if they end up at a reasonable length! Better than expecting them to be small, and having to scrounge together a big cage on the spot! :O

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ok, so basically find a line that has been around the size i want for a few generations already? i figured theres alot of "play" in the sizes, and i know if i ever get any retic, im gonna plan on it being a monster no matter what the breeder says or shows me, but thankyou:D, thats gonna help me be able to estimate better for sure

That's what I was told at least, but it was more of a guess, like a possible thing. It would still vary a lot, most likely. Maybe someone will come by with more info than me! :oops: Good luck with your planning!

There are actual dwarf retics that are not mixed. There are locale retics in different sizes.

If you want a dwarf, go for a pure blood locale. Like Jampae dwarf. Those are the medium sized ones you want.

The true super dwarf locale stay very small. About 6 ft.

The super dwarf x mainland creates a dwarf sized mix that can be anywhere from 10 to 15 ft depending on generation.

Look into breeders who have been dealing with them for a long time like The Retic Ranch.

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Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents

There are actual dwarf retics that are not mixed. There are locale retics in different sizes.

If you want a dwarf, go for a pure blood locale. Like Jampae dwarf. Those are the medium sized ones you want.

The true super dwarf locale stay very small. About 6 ft.

The super dwarf x mainland creates a dwarf sized mix that can be anywhere from 10 to 15 ft depending on generation.

Look into breeders who have been dealing with them for a long time like The Retic Ranch.

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i'll do that, thanks:gj:

fer a 10-13 footer I would look into a Jamp.... I have seen several adult female jamps that are 10-13 foot good body size. I hope that you have some tic experience, a 12 foot retic is nothing like a 12 foot burm

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fer a 10-13 footer I would look into a Jamp.... I have seen several adult female jamps that are 10-13 foot good body size. I hope that you have some tic experience, a 12 foot retic is nothing like a 12 foot burm

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nope, no retic experience, but i did have quite the aggressive 12+ ft scrub python, and man was she mean! right now though im more just wanting information, im not going to be able to put any plans into action any time soon:(

My Super Dwarfs were bred off of a 4+' male and 5+' females. Tiny little things :) I don't know a lot of about Dwarfs but have heard they can reach up to 15' and sometimes males as small as 7-8'.

Regards,

B