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  • 09-20-2011, 02:29 AM
    cabanaeclipse
    Albino Spider Genetics Question
    So I've heard that in order to produce albino spiders one of the parents has to be a spider, whether that parent is an albino spider or a normal spider that is het for albino. I purchased two albino ball pythons and their clutch was half albino spiders. I was wondering if it was possible to breed them together to produce albino spiders?

    Im still trying to fully understand genetics here so I hope that this doesn't come across as a stupid question...

    Thanks! :)
  • 09-20-2011, 02:41 AM
    Jessica Loesch
    I don't understand your question fully, because you cannot get albino spiders from regular albinos.

    To get albino spiders, you must have 2 copies of the albino gene and 1 copy of the spider gene.

    This means you need 2 of the following as long as one parent is one of the first two and the other parent can be any of the 4.

    spider het albino
    spider albino
    normal het albino
    albino
  • 09-20-2011, 05:33 AM
    reptile_republic
    Re: Albino Spider Genetics Question
    Here are the possible paired parents you need to produce spider albino
    pair1: Albino x spider (het albino)
    pair2: spider (het albino) x normal (het albino)

    I don't think if I hit your question: albino x albino = albino; even they have clutch of albino spider. albino was recessive and spider was dominant.
  • 09-20-2011, 05:58 AM
    Jessica Loesch
    there are more pairings you can do than that, as i explained.
  • 09-20-2011, 08:52 AM
    Peoples
    Re: Albino Spider Genetics Question
    Ok so here goes nothing...

    The Albino gene is recessive, which means both parties need to have a copy of the albino gene however since the Spider gene is co-dominant you only need one copy of the gene so here are 2 examples, the rest isn't rocket science:

    Spider het Albino x Albino
    Spider het Albino x Normal het Albino

    What ever you do, both sides need to have the Albino gene however only one spider gene is required.

    So if you breed Spider x Albino you'd end up with Spider het Albino babies, hope I cleared up some stuff for you...
  • 09-20-2011, 08:57 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Albino Spider Genetics Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Peoples View Post
    Spider gene is co-dominant

    Spider if Dominant.............Co-Doms have a super form, spiders dont.:gj:
  • 09-20-2011, 08:58 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Albino Spider Genetics Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cabanaeclipse View Post
    So I've heard that in order to produce albino spiders one of the parents has to be a spider, whether that parent is an albino spider or a normal spider that is het for albino. I purchased two albino ball pythons and their clutch was half albino spiders. I was wondering if it was possible to breed them together to produce albino spiders?

    Im still trying to fully understand genetics here so I hope that this doesn't come across as a stupid question...

    Thanks! :)

    In short no..you can't produce albino spiders buy just breeding two albino's together. you'll need a spider albino or spider het albino to produce albino spiders..

    Hope that helps
  • 09-20-2011, 10:26 AM
    paulh
    Re: Albino Spider Genetics Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Spider is Dominant.............Co-Doms have a super form, spiders dont.:gj:

    The jury is still out. No one has reported a snake with a pair of spider mutant genes. So all we can say for sure is that spider is not a recessive mutant gene.
  • 09-20-2011, 10:29 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    Re: Albino Spider Genetics Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulh View Post
    The jury is still out. No one has reported a snake with a pair of spider mutant genes. So all we can say for sure is that spider is not a recessive mutant gene.

    As long as spiders have been around I think it is safe to say dom, not co-dom;)
  • 09-20-2011, 10:50 AM
    Peoples
    Re: Albino Spider Genetics Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reptile_republic View Post
    Here are the possible paired parents you need to produce spider albino
    pair1: Albino x spider (het albino)
    pair2: spider (het albino) x normal (het albino)

    I don't think if I hit your question: albino x albino = albino; even they have clutch of albino spider. albino was recessive and spider was dominant.

    That is correct, The Spider gene is dom not co-dom, my mistake. Please look into all genes when creating morphs, some spiders and known to have what's called a wobble, another known defective gene would be caramels which are known to have kinks, whether it's greatly visible or just the tip of the tails, a kink is a kink... so breed wisely...
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