Are we the last of the old timers?

I just wonder... Are WE the BP morph generation? Will all following generations take what we have accomplished for granted?

Well as u can see by my profile I started in 2007. A lot has changed since then. The stuff I could only dream about then is affordable now... But the stuff I dream of now isn't affordable!!!!

I wonder... Will that be true again 5 years from now, or is this the end of the beginning?

Your thoughts?

IMO some do, I only been breeding Ball Pythons since 2005 but started in 1996 with colubrids.

Ive noticed a lot let us do the work, let market drop then they jump in over produce it and so on. I understand not everyone has $1000+ to drop on snakes, but have to respect our work to produce it. Its not just putting snakes together and we get babies.


I feel a 20+pg thread here

Ya'll are not the last...........but a wealth of knowledge for my new begining. Your input has influenced myself as well as many others that want to mix and match to make what we want.
For that i thank you:bow:

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Ya'll are not the last...........but a wealth of knowledge for my new begining. Your input has influenced myself as well as many others that want to mix and match to make what we want.
For that i thank you:bow:

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The funny thing is I HATE reading, during school and college i would only read cliff notes to get general idea on discussions.

When it come to snakes, my passion i read everything and ANYTHING i can get my hands on.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

I just wonder... Are WE the BP morph generation? Will all following generations take what we have accomplished for granted?

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I think that is a bit presumptuous. I don't see anyone (now or in the future) taking long-time breeders for granted. To what extent ball python morphology will continue to progress no one can say but I disagree that "your generation's" contributions will by any means be the be-all and end-all of genetic engineering in reptiles.

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Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons

The funny thing is I HATE reading, during school and college i would only read cliff notes to get general idea on discussions.

When it come to snakes, my passion i read everything and ANYTHING i can get my hands on.

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Ditto.. Hated reading on school. I work a job where i always have a chance to sit and do basically nothing.. Lucky me ;) and my iphone goes non stop.. Either here.. A local forum.. My site... Kijiji or kingsnake... Always seems like there is something to learn or read about..

The oldet generation of expierenced breeders will never be taken for granted.. At least by me.. This hobby/addiction is a life long intrest for me now. And i have the breeders before me to thank for that!!! :)

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps

I think that is a bit presumptuous. I don't see anyone (now or in the future) taking long-time breeders for granted. To what extent ball python morphology will continue to progress no one can say but I disagree that "your generation's" contributions will by any means be the be-all and end-all of genetic engineering in reptiles.

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Agreed. The amount of combos that can be produced with at least 60 identified base morphs are endless. We'll never see all the possible combinations in our lifetime.

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps

To what extent ball python morphology will continue to progress no one can say but I disagree that "your generation's" contributions will by any means be the be-all and end-all of genetic engineering in reptiles.

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Ha ha.. Generic engineering? Isn't that the same as the whole mad scientist thing?

We aren't using science to create anything new. We aren't altering anything. All we are doing is using the ingredients that nature has given us to make different recipes.

I think we still have a few more recipes to discover that will change things a bit... But I think that from there all we can do is tweak the recipes that everyone already knows for subtle differences.

It seems vain to think this way.

Without "our generation" people would still discover everything we know about ball pythons today, it would just happen at a later time. It's neat that we were able to be around while it was happening, but it would still have happened without us.

Also, people have been interacting with and keeping ball pythons for much longer than this. There are many "big names" in the business who tell stories about when they first spoke with a breeder, who was around long before them.

I personally can't take credit for discovering a new morph, maybe people who have proven a new morph feel differently. I imagine it's very exciting to be the first person to see a genetic combination that's new.

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Originally Posted by Mike Cavanaugh

I just wonder... Are WE the BP morph generation? Will all following generations take what we have accomplished for granted?

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Yes. That is the general pattern of life. We already take for granted revolutionary things like hand-held electronic calculators, DVDs, the Internet, and the birth control pill.