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  • 09-11-2011, 07:21 PM
    Maddumpling
    Prices on Deserts and champagnes
    Why are the males more expensive than the females? Isnt it usually the other way around?
  • 09-11-2011, 07:28 PM
    Simple Man
    Simple. Males can breed multiple females which means more clutches and more money.

    Regards,

    B
  • 09-11-2011, 07:36 PM
    Mitch21
    ^^^ What he said. With higher end morphs, males will always be more expensive because you can simply buy 1 male and possibly be producing that same morph within a year by breeding him to multiple normal females. If you bought a high end female morph, you'd have to wait ~2 years to produce one clutch.

    Males are more efficient for revenue stream.
  • 09-11-2011, 07:39 PM
    plsbh
    Re: Prices on Deserts and champagnes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maddumpling View Post
    Why are the males more expensive than the females? Isnt it usually the other way around?

    I am pretty new to ball pythons, but I think it can go either way. When they are young the males reach size/maturity quicker which means you can plug those genes into those girls quicker.

    Then you have already large girls that someone else has done all the work for getting them to size so their price goes way up as well.
  • 09-11-2011, 07:45 PM
    snake lab
    Same thing happened 10 years ago with the spiders. I remember spider males at 15 grand and females were like 10. I bought my first spider male in 2002 for 12k. Made my money back on him the next year when i bred 3 girls to him. It didnt take long for those prices to drop and same will happen with the deserts and champagnes
  • 09-11-2011, 08:00 PM
    Anna.Sitarski
    Sounds terrible but I hope they drop soon I would love a champagne to play some genetics with
  • 09-11-2011, 08:04 PM
    Maddumpling
    I see thanks you guys.
  • 09-11-2011, 09:14 PM
    mainbutter
    Look at commercial breeding of animals that have uses other than looking pretty.

    Cows, horses, dogs..

    Because you can plug a male into multiple females, when it comes to selective breeding, it's worth investing SERIOUS cash into your champion male, and the best of the best will always command a premium that females will have trouble matching.

    With ball pythons, it seems the tipping point between males vs. females pricing is somewhere between 1.5 grand and 3 grand. With snakes above that tipping point, males are more expensive. With snakes below that, females are more expensive.
  • 09-11-2011, 09:16 PM
    Maddumpling
    But then why isnt that with other snakes though?
  • 09-11-2011, 09:27 PM
    mainbutter
    umm.. It is?

    In hognose snakes, carpet pythons, and blood pythons, and GTPs the really rare stuff tends to be more expensive for males and less expensive for females.

    Heck sometimes for the REALLY uncommon, two-or-three of a kind for example, males aren't even for sale but you can pick up a female for the right price.
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