Super Spiders?

Does such thing exists? I have never seen one, and have been wondering why :confused:

No. It's a dominant gene , and supers only exist in the codominant.

Also, it is impossible to identify a homozygous spider from a heterozygous spider, but it is believed that the homozygous form is lethal due to multiple deaths in spider x spider pairings.

oh! as you can see biology/genetics is nowhere near my strong area :P

thanks

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Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch

but it is believed that the homozygous form is lethal due to multiple deaths in spider x spider pairings.

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not one person has ever backed this up, Kevin who has delt with more spiders than anyone else specifically says there is no evidence of it being lethal, its a rumor.

There have been cases of spiders throwing nothing but spider in all the clutches. But it's difficult to say if it's really good odds, or if it's really a homozygous spider. I don't know of anyone who has kept really good records over a period of several seasons to "prove" their spider is a homozygous.

I was on the way to do so with Sam, but unfortunately he died. He did throw several clutches of all spiders, never producing a single normal. But I did have a lot of failed eggs. Anytime there was a embryo developed enough to show pattern, it also showed the spider pattern. So not only all hatched babies had come out spiders, but all formed fetuses were spiders. Again... I don't feel he had produced ENOUGH clutches to really prove it, and since he died, it's a moot point.

I think there are rare cases of homozygous spiders out there, but it doesn't seem to be a easily produced animal(i.e. just breed spider x spider and you get homozygous spider). It must be a simple glitch in the genetics that occurs once in a very great while. I also think that there is a flaw in the genetics of a homozygous spider since I had so many failed eggs out of Sam.

All of the above are only my opinions and theories, not proven, not presented as fact, and to be taken only as discussion of theory.

May be rumor but as the post above says u can't disprove it either.

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As cheap as spiders are now watch them be worth $20 if there a homozygous form :rolleye2:

There might be a short period of time where the price goes up but remember supply and demand control the market place and if super spiders were produced there would be even more spider/spider combos slamming the market.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

There have been cases of spiders throwing nothing but spider in all the clutches. But it's difficult to say if it's really good odds, or if it's really a homozygous spider. I don't know of anyone who has kept really good records over a period of several seasons to "prove" their spider is a homozygous.

I was on the way to do so with Sam, but unfortunately he died. He did throw several clutches of all spiders, never producing a single normal. But I did have a lot of failed eggs. Anytime there was a embryo developed enough to show pattern, it also showed the spider pattern. So not only all hatched babies had come out spiders, but all formed fetuses were spiders. Again... I don't feel he had produced ENOUGH clutches to really prove it, and since he died, it's a moot point.

I think there are rare cases of homozygous spiders out there, but it doesn't seem to be a easily produced animal(i.e. just breed spider x spider and you get homozygous spider). It must be a simple glitch in the genetics that occurs once in a very great while. I also think that there is a flaw in the genetics of a homozygous spider since I had so many failed eggs out of Sam.

All of the above are only my opinions and theories, not proven, not presented as fact, and to be taken only as discussion of theory.

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I was actually interested in this situation until I heard he died. Hopefully you can one day get a new guy who may be able to replicate what he did, and you'll be able to get somewhere with it.

Yeah, I was pretty upset and I have yet to get another spider male. Somewhere on here there's a post I made that detailed how many eggs and clutches there were total.