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  • 08-25-2011, 11:43 PM
    Quikcobra
    a breeder told me today......
    A breeder I was talking to today, told me that axanthics are hard to care for and die very quickly.... and that not to breed mojaves because no one wants them.... Does anyone agree with theses statements?? or was he feeding me bull... let me know!!!

    Thanks!
  • 08-25-2011, 11:44 PM
    thewesterngate
    Eh, sounds like BS to me. Work with what you love and can afford.
  • 08-25-2011, 11:44 PM
    Highline Reptiles South
    bs alert
  • 08-25-2011, 11:46 PM
    Shawnfireball
    not to breed mojaves? Hahahahah
  • 08-25-2011, 11:51 PM
    spitzu
    I have 5 axanthics. BS!

    And mojaves are awesome. Have you seen the Desert Mojave?
  • 08-25-2011, 11:52 PM
    deto360
    yea dont breed mojaves send em my way for safe keeping that is;)
  • 08-25-2011, 11:57 PM
    angllady2
    Sounds to me like he doesn't want competition.

    I see adult axanthics all the time, so how do these people keep them alive ?

    And Mojaves ? They are some of the most popular morphs out there.

    Gale
  • 08-25-2011, 11:58 PM
    Quikcobra
    Re: a breeder told me today......
    Thank you everyone! I appreciate all the input! Im now seeing he was full of bologna! Im trying to figure out what snakes I want to start off my breeding. Im still new at all of this :) But thank you for showing out the BS!!!
  • 08-26-2011, 12:01 AM
    Driver
    The Mojave morph is probably one of my favorite morphs out there.
  • 08-26-2011, 12:14 AM
    mainbutter
    I plain don't like how axanthics brown out, but I've never heard of survivability issues. I tend to prefer XANTHIC type animals anyways, so they're the opposite spectrum of my interests :P

    Plenty of people love axanthics, and even more love the combos that they make. Creating an animal that would normally exhibit large amounts of yellow, but then exhibiting the axanthic trait, makes for some killer black-and-white animals with very clean looks to them.

    Mojaves saw a big drop in demand a few years ago as lessers/butters became more available, making pure white BEL projects accessible to more people. However it was pretty temporary, and they've made quite a niche for themselves with combos. The coloration they contribute to a phenotype is desirable, and the way that they tend to make WONKY patterns (way more than any other BEL-complex trait) is a bonus to anyone working with them.

    Similarly, for a short while the super mojaves, with their grey heads, were seen a bit inferior to pure white BELs. However I think that pleny of people these days just look at a super mojave and think it's every bit as cool as, if just a little different from, pure white BELs such as super lessers.

    In addition, the "greying" effect that mojaves have on BEL-complex traits is exactly what makes mystic potions and similar mojave crosses have that wonderful purple coloration and light pattern.

    There is certainly interest in mojaves, though I'd say these days that it leans more and more towards combo animals with the mojave trait rather than just your typical mojave phenotype.. but then again the entire ball python hobby is focused on combo animals these days.

    There may be some truth in that perhaps the breeder you talked to has a low opinion of mojaves, as everyone has their own interests. I have no interest in them, particularly because of their coloration. I much prefer the tans, yellows, and golds of lessers/butters and will leave it to others to work with the purples and greys that mojaves can contribute. Therefore I have no desire to have a mojave, or indeed any animal that has the mojave allele, in my collection for breeding purposes.

    Hope that helps :)
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