Is it bad?

I was talking to some breeders and the question that I came up with was " why do most breeders only breed pieds to het pieds?". His answer was that it is bad to breed to recessive morphs together due to deformities. Is this true?

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Originally Posted by Kylegep

I was talking to some breeders and the question that I came up with was " why do most breeders only breed pieds to het pieds?". His answer was that it is bad to breed to recessive morphs together due to deformities. Is this true?

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First of all they don't, things like Caramel Glows, Caramel Pied, Hypo pied, Axanthic pied, Axanthic Hypo, Lavender Pied have all been done.

People breed recessive to recessive all the time

It's not bad. It can be more cost effective though.

Most breeders use Het females for production and Female Homos to make combos...

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Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict

Most breeders use Het females for production and Female Homos to make combos...

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Jon,

What is the benefit of this? I understand that if would be quicker to grow a male to breed back to the female, but why a het female for production?

I will let you know. I have a 1.3 Pied group that will be breeding the first time together. After this I will be starting on other pied projects. The Panda Pied is #1 on my list for now. I have all the ingredients to make them it will just take a few years to do it. I am patient, which is a good thiing in this hobby.

Because het females are cheaper than visuals.

At least that is what I've always thought. And with some of the rarer and more expensive recessive morphs, het females might be the only ones available for a long time as the breeders keep the visual females for making combos later. And no, breeding recessive to recessive is NOT going to cause problems that weren't already there. At least, not unless you line breed for 6 or 8 continuous generations with no outcrossing.

Gale

Ok, I should have clarified this, here is an example if someone were to breed an albino to an albino, I was told that the clutch would have problems compared to an albino to het albino.

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Originally Posted by Kylegep

Ok, I should have clarified this, here is an example if someone were to breed an albino to an albino, I was told that the clutch would have problems compared to an albino to het albino.

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No it's fine...I've done that paring a couple times...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Albinos075.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Albinos149.jpg

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Originally Posted by bkelley02

Jon,

What is the benefit of this? I understand that if would be quicker to grow a male to breed back to the female, but why a het female for production?

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Well if I have het Pied females plus actual Pied females I’m going to breed my Pied male to the Hets to make more Pieds and Hets…I would breed other Morphs to the Pieds female to makes Pied combos…

There’s little benefit in breeding a non recessive carrying gene male to a Het…You would just make poss hets and poss hets of whatever Morph you paired with the Het.