what morph are these?

So, what do you think? Are these normals or as the seller says; spotnose and 2 black pastels?

1.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Q...%252520137.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...%252520147.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...%252520148.JPG

2.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-u...%252520149.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...%252520151.JPG

3.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-E...%252520158.JPG

(the picks are poor, and the first one is too skinny. But I just got them)

I've never seen a spotnose that looks like that (EDIT: i.e., it's a normal IMO). And certainly not a black pastel. Color and pattern mutation (see below).

http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/...i/P1000729.jpg

Those are all normals, sorry.

Normals.. 4th Picture looks like reduced pattern.. last picture little Granite-ish.. but besides that they looks "wild type" not a morphs...

They mostly look like normals to me... although the second one is awesome-looking!

Normals my friend... normals. I can see where this guy is going tho, trying to lure in people that arent too sharp with their morphs. Damn Skeemers.

I have never been good at seeing the spot nose gene but none of those are black pastels so I'm sure they lied about all three. The second one does look cool though.

They are normals.. Even "granite" is not really a genetic morph. It can be a genetically inheritable speckling along the sides but not every snake with granite speckling will pass it on and it doesn't really add much to the pattern of a snake. It's a common trait among normals.

Hi,

Get your money back as those are three normals. How much did you pay?

Also feel free to name and shame.

I can't abide scammers.

**edit**

This is a black pastel I produced last year;

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/294...32female01.jpg

**end edit**


dr del

They were cheap, but not as cheap as the sellers normals. They are from Africa. Neat looking for normals I think.