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Raw wooden rack...

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  • 06-28-2011, 07:24 AM
    saber2th
    Raw wooden rack...
    If I built a rack using pine, would I still have to seal it if I where to leave the lids on the 6qt. tubs? This is going to be a small hatchling rack.

    just wondering,

    Dave
  • 06-28-2011, 07:58 AM
    kitedemon
    Personally I would seal any bare wood that is a functional part of a snake room. If you ever get mites having a smooth surface to clean would be much easier than bare wood :O. I personally would advocate no bare wood just to look to cleaning anyway painted is much easier to clean and generally you may not clean the rack every month but are likely to every now and again.
  • 06-28-2011, 06:58 PM
    saber2th
    Re: Raw wooden rack...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    Personally I would seal any bare wood that is a functional part of a snake room. If you ever get mites having a smooth surface to clean would be much easier than bare wood :O.


    What do you seal it with?
  • 06-28-2011, 07:24 PM
    knox
    When I use lids, I simply paint the wood I build with.
  • 06-28-2011, 08:30 PM
    Maixx
    I'm not sure about pine, I know its a big no-no as far as substrate because of the phenol that is dangerous to your snake. It might be ok for a rack, but I'd look into something else myself, maybe Pvc.
  • 06-28-2011, 08:36 PM
    Skittles1101
    I'd use some sort of deck sealer or laquer to seal it...pine is a no-no...
  • 06-28-2011, 08:46 PM
    cecilbturtle
    ive used contact paper with great success. i'd seal the wood with a deck sealer let it dry then apply the contact paper.
  • 06-29-2011, 07:39 AM
    saber2th
    Re: Raw wooden rack...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cecilbturtle View Post
    ive used contact paper with great success. i'd seal the wood with a deck sealer let it dry then apply the contact paper.

    thanks for the tip, I thought about contact paper. I may just use Melamine.
    How's Southern Tier treating you these days.
  • 06-29-2011, 08:13 AM
    cecilbturtle
    quite well thanks! how have we been treating you? ;)
  • 06-29-2011, 09:53 AM
    kitedemon
    Personally I'd use a good polyurethane paint dilute the first coat 20% with thinner or add a penetrating paint addiditive (penetrol) this will generate a better bond allow the paint to cure TOTALLY before using it. The best is to 'bake' it. If you can place it in a warm (100º) area with really good ventilation that will force the thinners out faster and more efficiently. The best test is your nose if it still smells 'painty' it isn't done. It will take awhile 5-10 days. I would not use a floor product as they are designed in many cases to hold elasticisty and the often out gas for a longer period of time. NEVER use a spar varnish they are very soft (boat masts move a lot) and never completely out gas.

    Kiln dried pine has most of the phenols baked out of it. Use your nose if it is very piney smelling pick a different bit. But in any case polyurethane cured is plastic if you paint the whole rack it is encapsulated in plastic. The phenol gas will not penetrate the plastic. There is also debate about pine anyway so as I feel it isn't worth the risk to use as a substrate there are very respected keepers whom use kiln dried pine as substrates. The only wood I would not use is cedar. As it isn't a good choice anyway it makes no difference.

    You can also sometimes find poplar boards in some lumber yards it is very soft wood but works like pine. It is an odd look greenish brown and is never found very large so it means lots of glueing. It has almost no phenols. (is also know as Aspen)
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