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  • 06-17-2011, 01:47 PM
    TimNA
    Ball considered A "large snake"?
    Would you all consider a ball python to be a "Large snake"?

    Reason I am asking is I have a hatchling coming to me soon. My wife told a neighbor about it and that neighbor told the management where I live & now I got a notice on the door quoting the rules & a rude note saying if I have broken the rules I will be forced to move.

    So here is the rule in question:
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    A housepet is defined as a pet that spends it's primary existence within the home. Exotic (Large snakes, Iguanas, poisonous spiders, ferrets, wild, farm animals or potentially dangerous pets are not allowed under any condition. Some examples of other animals which would not be permitted are" pot bellied pigs, goats, peacocks, chickens, rabbits, macaws, or birds of prey, Pitbulls (American Terrier, Staffordshire Terrier, or any relation thereof) are expressly prohibited.
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    Now for me I wouldn't consider a ball to be a large snake, large in my eyes is a burmese sized snake. The rule doesnt say "snakes" it says "large snakes" & being a hatchling she will be what? a foot or so. I so need to get my own house sooner than later..

    Anyways what do you all think?

    I think if my wife would have just kept her big mouth shut I wouldn't be dealing with it. She said that the kids were sure to tell someone & then would be here anyways. I of course can deny the existence of the snake and just hide it. Not like they can walk into my house and search it for a snake.
  • 06-17-2011, 01:53 PM
    LoNeSt4r
    It really helps to know where you live. I know here in texas it's legal to keep a snake as long as it's not longer than 6ft long. Laws may differ for you.

    Tell people where you live and they'll probably be able to help you out
  • 06-17-2011, 01:57 PM
    TimNA
    Sorry about that I live in Southern California (Rancho Cucamonga to be exact) I will update my profile with it for the future.

    Thanks
  • 06-17-2011, 02:02 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Thats why, Its Cali, they have the worst idiotic laws in place for pet ownership I have ever heard and read.

    Should of never opened and told ppl where you live that you have snakes. In every uneducated persons head, they think LARGE HUGE MONSTROUS snakes are living next door.
  • 06-17-2011, 02:06 PM
    LoNeSt4r
    Yeah i tried looking it up but it's so damn convoluted. Thank god i'm not a lawyer. I think the best bet would be to call the California wildlife people and get the answer straight from the source.
  • 06-17-2011, 02:08 PM
    MasonC2K
    Re: Ball considered A "large snake"?
    I don't think this is a legal issue. My assumption is that this is leased or rented property.

    Ball pythons are indeed not considered under anyone's definition to be a large snake.

    I would fight on those grounds alone.
  • 06-17-2011, 02:09 PM
    deathadder1069
    im in Texas and my city has ordinances regarding any pythons and boas...i cant have them...but i do have them i just dont tell anyone and as animal control told me, theyd come and check only if they get complaints about them which i dont go parading them like a bafoon in public. Dont display it out in the open and you should be ok but be prepared to be asked to move in the future if they do decide to come look...as landlords they have all the right without your permission for inspections and at some time theyll excercise that right...good luck
  • 06-17-2011, 02:11 PM
    LoNeSt4r
    Also, ball pythons are hardly dangers. They're one of the most docile snakes around, and they are not venomous. Also, their exclusion of pit bulls is ABSOLUTELY stupid. Is this a lease or rental agreement? Or what?
  • 06-17-2011, 02:11 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    If this is a rented house or apartment, you have no ground to stand on. Unless the contract lease you signed upon moving in said nothing about large snakes.

    Notice must be given in the event the contract changes a bout pet ownership to ALL tenants and not just one individual.

    Calling the F&W is not going to do a thing and when on private property.
  • 06-17-2011, 02:12 PM
    mommanessy247
    Re: Ball considered A "large snake"?
    Quote:

    Not like they can walk into my house and search it for a snake.
    wrong...:colbert:
    having lived in apartments in california i know first hand that management can and will if they deem fit, come into your home. why do you think they always request a copy of the keys of any locks you put in, even if its a lock on a bedroom door. they dont have to ask you for permission or even tell you that they will. if they think you have something there thats not allowed they will come in and although you have the right to not allow them entry that is to them admission of guilt.
    theres absolutely no privacy when it comes to renting apartments or anything for that matter.
    i HATE apartments. i dont like being so close to other people like that, like my living room is directly adjacent to theirs & only separated by a wall. their noise disturbs you & vise versa...ugh! hate it!
    no privacy + no freedom = a whole lotta stress.
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