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Snake Vomit?
So I fed my snake on Sunday morning as usual and all seemed well, and today when I got home today I noticed something white in her tank that looked almost identical to what I asked about in my last thread. Being days after her meal I'm sure its not regurge and I'm skeptical of it being poop as well. This time I noticed a slimy substance coating it, again not much smell to it and this now has me worried again. She has an appointment with the vet tomorrow at 2:30 and I bagged the sample to bring with me to find out for sure what it is. I just read something about vomiting as apposed to regurge and now think that's whats going on since it happened so soon after a meal and still long enough after to not be regurge. Has anyone else had one of their snakes vomit a few days after a meal? She is still acting normal from what I can tell, and her temps and humidity haven't changed. Any suggestions for what to do in the mean time?
Here's a link to the bit I read
http://www.herpcenter.com/herp-aware...on-snakes.html
I'll try and get a picture of the object in question posted.
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Is it urates? If it's not regurge then it's urates. It's a white chalky substance they pass with urine...like a solid urine.
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Re: Snake Vomit?
Ya dude that is totally snake urine, it is white and chunky, and if it is fresh it can be slimy as well..
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Re: Snake Vomit?
Sounds like urates to me, too. They can be dry or slimy, and they may or may not have some amount of liquid waste alongside. And they can range in colors...mostly white to yellow...sometimes greenish or grey.
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I'm pretty sure its not urates its not chalky at all and it definitely looks like a mostly digested mouse, covered in fur and in the same general shape as her normal poop, just not quite poop yet. Her urates usually form in more of a ball shape as well. I wish I caught the action of her expelling it from her body so I knew for sure which end it came out. Last week when it happened there was a normal poop with urates attached to it then there was also something similar to what I found today.
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One more thing, regurgitation freaking reeks! It will smell like barf but orders of magnitude worse than any barf you have ever smelled...
Not only that, a regurgitated rodent will almost always look alot like a puked up rodent... In other words a partially digested sloppy mess with its skin full of putrescent holes and its innards hanging out all over the place... Plus a crapload of snake digestive fluids...
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If it has fur and looks like the mouse she ate, and this is the second time she's regurged, I'd bring a stool sample to the vet asap to check for parasites, and/or double and triple check your husbandry.
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In that case, you're doing the right thing with the vet appt and keeping the sample. Even if it is just a weird urates, it'll be good to get such confirmation from a vet who has seen and handled it personally. All we can do here is guess based on vague descriptions. :P
In the meantime...I don't think there is anything special you need to do for the snake. Just leave her be and don't do anything to add to her stress. The less handling, the better, until you're certain she's healthy.
Good luck. Let us know what the vet says.
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Re: Snake Vomit?
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Originally Posted by Ham
One more thing, regurgitation freaking reeks! It will smell like barf but orders of magnitude worse than any barf you have ever smelled...
Not only that, a regurgitated rodent will almost always look alot like a puked up rodent... In other words a partially digested sloppy mess with its skin full of putrescent holes and its innards hanging out all over the place... Plus a crapload of snake digestive fluids...
If it looks like a mouse than it might be a mouse, but they will never crap out anything that looks like a rodent, if it resembles what went into the snake than it must of come out the wrong end... Make sure not to feed anything bigger around than the widest part of your snake, and make sure your temps are correct, too much or too little heat can make em puke, and do not handle for 48 hours after feeding the snake, that can make em puke too, also you should not worry too awful much, just wait 5 days and feed the snake again, maybe a smaller prey item...
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http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/a...Z/IMG00718.jpg
Sorry about the quality but that's it, the brown stuff is just coco fiber stuck to it. It's much smaller than the mouse was to begin with and seams to be mostly digested. My dad is going to sterilize the tank while she is at the vet and I'm going to set it back up the way it was for QT with paper towels and plastic hides before she goes back in. I just put up a piece of cardboard on the front so she has black out on all 4 sides now. All her temps and humidity are still stable and she has fresh water from this morning. Thanks for the help everyone and I will let you know what it is and what the vet says as soon as I can.
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