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Pretty amazing cover up... and you knew we were going to ask, but what did the numbers symbolize?
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MarkieJ
Pretty amazing cover up... and you knew we were going to ask, but what did the numbers symbolize?
Thank you very much. The original tattoo was actually inspired by a Tool song but I didn't know much about tattoos when I first got it done, and clearly it was upside down. The actual meaning behind the numbers is as follows:
Basically, it's believed that there are three levels of human evolution and each has it's form of conciousness. There's the 1st level with 44 chromosones. These are primitve people's like the aboriginies in Australia who do not percieve anything outside of themselves. They only see one large conciousness with no distinguishment between organisms. Then there's the second level with 46 chromosones. That is us. We are a chaotic disharmonic conciousness that is basically used as a stepping stone between the first and third levels. The third level is 48 chromosones. (Or 46 & 2, with 2 being the sex chromosones x & y). This is the higher level of conciousness. Our destination.
But this is where the Jungian theory comes in. It is believed that you can not reach this third level of evolution without first delving into yourself and basically cleansing your conciousness for the next jump. That's where the Shadow comes in. The shadow is basically everything about that is unseen that you are uncomfortable with or hate. This is also known as the Anima (hence the name of the CD).
The last part of the song sums all of this up...
"See my shadow changing,
Stretching up and over me
Soften this old armor
Hoping I can clear the way
By stepping through my shadow,
Coming out the other side
Step into the shadow
Forty six and two are just ahead of me"
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I'm actually thinking of migrating the numbers to the other wrist; right side up this time...
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Awesome tattoo! I love it!
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Of course..
Some could argue that the aboriginies are actually more advanced as they percieve everything that exists everywhere within themselves. :cool:
Others could find the delineation of mental attitudes and levels of conciousness by cultural or racial groups somewhat offensive - especially then they are then ranked as superior/ inferior by one of the groups involved.
Now, given that the number of chromosomes is one of the definitions of being human, implying that one group has a different count is flat out declaring they are not human.
I'm begining to think the group is well named.
However should this bunch of moral midgets achieve their aim of 48 chromosomes it would cheer me up immensely as they would probably be chimpanzees. :rofl:
However I really like the rose. :gj:
dr del
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Pandora
Thank you very much. The original tattoo was actually inspired by a Tool song but I didn't know much about tattoos when I first got it done, and clearly it was upside down. The actual meaning behind the numbers is as follows:
Basically, it's believed that there are three levels of human evolution and each has it's form of conciousness. There's the 1st level with 44 chromosones. These are primitve people's like the aboriginies in Australia who do not percieve anything outside of themselves. They only see one large conciousness with no distinguishment between organisms. Then there's the second level with 46 chromosones. That is us. We are a chaotic disharmonic conciousness that is basically used as a stepping stone between the first and third levels. The third level is 48 chromosones. (Or 46 & 2, with 2 being the sex chromosones x & y). This is the higher level of conciousness. Our destination.
But this is where the Jungian theory comes in. It is believed that you can not reach this third level of evolution without first delving into yourself and basically cleansing your conciousness for the next jump. That's where the Shadow comes in. The shadow is basically everything about that is unseen that you are uncomfortable with or hate. This is also known as the Anima (hence the name of the CD).
The last part of the song sums all of this up...
"See my shadow changing,
Stretching up and over me
Soften this old armor
Hoping I can clear the way
By stepping through my shadow,
Coming out the other side
Step into the shadow
Forty six and two are just ahead of me"
I don't know what any of that even means but the flower tat came out nice :gj:
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dr del
Of course..
Some could argue that the aboriginies are actually more advanced as they percieve everything that exists everywhere within themselves. :cool:
Others could find the delineation of mental attitudes and levels of conciousness by cultural or racial groups somewhat offensive - especially then they are then ranked as superior/ inferior by one of the groups involved.
Now, given that the number of chromosomes is one of the definitions of being human, implying that one group has a different count is flat out declaring they are not human.
I'm begining to think the group is well named.
However should this bunch of moral midgets achieve their aim of 48 chromosomes it would cheer me up immensely as they would probably be chimpanzees. :rofl:
However I really like the rose. :gj:
dr del
I guess it depends on how much of an open (or closed) mind you have to spirituality over religion. It's along the similar lines of the buddhist belief of reaching enlightenment, once you learn to disconnect yourself from material possessions etc. etc.
Personally, I don't live with the goal of achieving 48 chromosomes, it's the idea behind the meaning. The concept of "reaching enlightenment" is far more intriguing to me than any religious material I've ever studied.
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Pandora
I guess it depends on how much of an open (or closed) mind you have to spirituality over religion. It's along the similar lines of the buddhist belief of reaching enlightenment, once you learn to disconnect yourself from material possessions etc. etc.
Personally, I don't live with the goal of achieving 48 chromosomes, it's the idea behind the meaning. The concept of "reaching enlightenment" is far more intriguing to me than any religious material I've ever studied.
I have no problems with the spirituality and striving for betterment aspects - it was the bad science shoehorned into it that got on my goat. :P
I always get jumpy when people misunderstand the science they are using in arguments that shouldn't contain any at all - and doubly so when it enables some repugnant prejudices to seem sensible and accurate.
I have also been intrested in the concept or reaching an enlightened state of being many times in the past.
But how something which is described as trancending the physical can be tied to some fairly low level ( as in foundation ) biological characteristics escapes me.
If you tie biological evolution to spiritual evolution then you deny the possibility of individual growth or change. The species can get better as the generations pass but those born into a generation are fixed with a finite level cap at birth.
The mortification of the flesh is a fairly widespread concept in all spiritual paths but, if the two aspects are linked in a fixed way, it is absolutely the wrong approach.
Which means almost all religions with fasting, denial and scourging in the history of their founders, prophets and leaders are hampering the spiritual growth of the species.
The only possible get out clause would be transmogrification.
dr del
