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The setup!

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  • 02-10-2011, 11:08 PM
    AMBiEN22
    The setup!
    I know i could probably answer my own question here by saying oh getting a infrared thermometer will solve your questionable doubts! But lets face it. I'd rather pick your brains! :O Okay so, my UTH has been running steady i have it i believe cranked at 95 degrees i have a probed thermometer on top of the glass inside the tank to measure what i would assume my snake would feel. As 95 degrees is a little above average i am hesitant to turn this up because i don't want to burn my snake! Anyways the probed thermo reads currently 87.2. Cold sides reading about 79 degrees just sprayed the tank down so its a little chilly. Humidity reads about 55% and i assume it will read 20% when i wake up (Thank you heat lamp). But not straying to off course should i assume that the UTH set at 95 is fine and i should not push my luck?

    (thermostat being used for UTH, Ranco on/off)
    (accurite for cold side and humidity readings)
    (Basking spot temps read by a coralife reptile stick on digital w/probe)

    NOTE orginal thread here if you follow me
  • 02-10-2011, 11:29 PM
    jason221
    If your thermostat probe is outside of the cage, then you will need to turn it up higher to get the desired in-cage temperatures. Turning the Ranco up to about 100ºF will yield about 90ºF in the cage. This varies a little bit depending on cage type, temperature of room, etc., but try it out. The thermostat probe should be in between the UTH and the underside of the cage, and the thermometer probe should be inside the cage just as you have it.
  • 02-10-2011, 11:42 PM
    AMBiEN22
    Yup from ground up it goes polystyrene (aka my Styrofoam insulator) UTH, probe, tank glass, probe, substrate, snake except i have no snake yet lol =P. Its reading around 88.3 now at 95 so I'm going to go up to 97 and see how i make out come morning time. I start working again tomorrow so i cannot wait to start saving for my rack project lol.

    Thank you for quick reply!

    All input is appreciated ahead of time! (note if you like pictures check out the old thread page 7)
  • 02-10-2011, 11:49 PM
    Kaorte
    I crank my thermostat to 97-98 to get a desired 92-93* inside the tubs. Perfectly fine to run your thermostat a little higher to get the right temp inside the enclosure. :)
  • 02-10-2011, 11:59 PM
    kitedemon
    Ir thermometers are not overly accurate. Most digitals thermometers with resistive sensors are not overly accurate either unless they are platinum... if you think your acu-rite has a solid platinum core at 1850.00 an oz think again. Check the specs 90% of all cheap digital thermometers are +/- 2 degrees. look it up do not take my word for it you will see my point. At 95º you could really be at 97º that is high enough to cause a burn in time. I'd set it to no higher than 92º in case you have a poor thermometer. Or buy a platinum tipped traceable science grade thermometer to check your cheap ones against. Or buy either a helix thermometer it is good to 1ºF accuracy or a herpstat with is 0.9ºF.

    I have no idea what the Ranco accuracy is but I see no reason why they would build a thermostat with expensive parts for the intended use it simply is not needed to be that good. A quick look at the Ranco unit specs it appears to use a simple resistive probe so it is accurate likely to +/-2º which for a human use device is quite reasonable. If it was set to a one degree offset it could read 94, actually be 96 and then would cut out at 97ºF.

    What my point is that account for the error and set the unit lower. 92º MAX (94 maybe cut out at 95... ) there is no need to be higher on the interior of the enclosure anyway.

    Did you say you work in a chemistry lab? If you did borrow a lab grade thermometer and test the ones you have against an accurate one.

    This is my work one I use everyday, this is what I have checked my cheap digitals against.

    https://www1.fishersci.com/wps/porta...ogCode%3DRE_SC
  • 02-11-2011, 01:10 AM
    LizardPants
    Re: The setup!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I crank my thermostat to 97-98 to get a desired 92-93* inside the tubs. Perfectly fine to run your thermostat a little higher to get the right temp inside the enclosure. :)

    Absolutely. Also with some thermostats (herpstat and others), you can calibrate the thermostat to the efficiency of the enclosure and heating devices.
  • 02-11-2011, 01:14 AM
    LizardPants
    Re: The setup!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AMBiEN22 View Post
    Yup from ground up it goes polystyrene (aka my Styrofoam insulator) UTH, probe, tank glass, probe, substrate, snake except i have no snake yet lol =P. Its reading around 88.3 now at 95 so I'm going to go up to 97 and see how i make out come morning time. I start working again tomorrow so i cannot wait to start saving for my rack project lol.

    Thank you for quick reply!

    All input is appreciated ahead of time! (note if you like pictures check out the old thread page 7)

    Thank you for taking the time to get this right, and verifying here BEFORE getting the snake! :D
  • 02-12-2011, 01:30 AM
    AMBiEN22
    Re: The setup!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LizardPants View Post
    Thank you for taking the time to get this right, and verifying here BEFORE getting the snake! :D

    Yeah i've learned with fish... not to trust all sales personal and do your homework. With snakes its even more important i feel as they live longer its like a dog. Its not like you pick a random breed and take it home. (this post is terrible just got done working an 8 hour shift after taking an exam and a quiz today i am beat lol)
  • 02-12-2011, 01:36 PM
    AMBiEN22
    Update!
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