Please prove me right?

Hey guys,
Ive just found out that my normal female was sexed wrong at the pet shop and so now I have a male! lol Ive looked at the other genetics thread but just wanted to comfirm my understanding. Do I only need a morph female to get a chance of a morph cluth or a super? can anyone help?

Cheers

You have the chance of gettin morphs even if you are using a male normal or female normal when bred to a morph. Havin a visual morph is a different story though.

Let's have an example:

You have a male normal, lets say you purchased a female pastel (codom gene). When bred together you have the chance of producing the following:
50% normals
50% pastel

Let's say you bred your normal to a female albino (recessive gene), then you will have the following outcome:
*normals that are 100% het for albino

You will have the same outcome whether you use a female normal. Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by Superdan

Hey guys,
Ive just found out that my normal female was sexed wrong at the pet shop and so now I have a male! lol Ive looked at the other genetics thread but just wanted to comfirm my understanding. Do I only need a morph female to get a chance of a morph cluth or a super? can anyone help?

Cheers

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If he is a normal he will only produce normals unless he is heterozygous for a particular morph which is unlikely unless you purchased him as a het. Even then you would need to breed him to another het for the same gene. There are co-dominant genes, dominant genes, and recessives. Co-dom and dominant genes are usually visable to the snake so you will know if you have one and recessives need 2 of a gene to produce a visable morph, so both the male and female must have the gene and they need to match up (look up punnet squares). Also you can only make supers if you breed co-dom genes together. So if you want morphs you will have to buy morphs. I think this is what you are asking. hope it helps. There are exceptions with certain morphs and appearances but in general this is the idea. Also you can have a morph male or female and make morphs, not just female.

Sex has nothing to do with the outcomes when it comes to breeding, the only difference is that a male can obviously breed several females.

Normal x Single Gene Morph (Do or Co-Dom) = 50% Single Gene Morph (Do or Co-Dom) + 50% Normals (chances per eggs)

Normal X Super = 100% Single Gene Morph (Do or Co-Dom)

In both case it does not matter if the normal is a male, strategically though I would not waste a female morph by breeding her to a normal male.

Now the thing is if you bought an animal and it was mis-sexed you should be entitle to get what you really bought or be offered a refund even for a normal. :gj:

It's already been said, but genes are not sex linked. Male or female they still follow the same rules.

If I bought it as a female and it turned out to be a male I'd be headed back to get my money back or a female.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Now the thing is if you bought an animal and it was mis-sexed you should be entitle to get what you really bought or be offered a refund even for a normal. :gj:

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Thanks i know but got him for his pattern not the sex, female would have been nice but there was no difference in price! I grown a bond with him now!

Guess i'l just have to start a collection... :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Superdan

Thanks i know but got him for his pattern not the sex, female would have been nice but there was no difference in price! I grown a bond with him now!

Guess i'l just have to start a collection... :D:D:D

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Normals have many different patterns and color variants but they will not produce morphs. If your going to start a collection be sure you know what your getting into and what snakes your getting. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Domepiece

If he is a normal he will only produce normals unless he is heterozygous for a particular morph which is unlikely unless you purchased him as a het. Even then you would need to breed him to another het for the same gene. There are co-dominant genes, dominant genes, and recessives. Co-dom and dominant genes are usually visable to the snake so you will know if you have one and recessives need 2 of a gene to produce a visable morph, so both the male and female must have the gene and they need to match up (look up punnet squares). Also you can only make supers if you breed co-dom genes together. So if you want morphs you will have to buy morphs. I think this is what you are asking. hope it helps. There are exceptions with certain morphs and appearances but in general this is the idea. Also you can have a morph male or female and make morphs, not just female.

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Half right.. Half Wrong..

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Originally Posted by Domepiece

Normals have many different patterns and color variants but they will not produce morphs. If your going to start a collection be sure you know what your getting into and what snakes your getting. Good luck.

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WRONG!

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Originally Posted by Lukestimp

Half right.. Half Wrong..



WRONG!

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Lets back this train up here a little bit. Explain yourself. How is this wrong? Are you saying that normals dont have different colors of brown(light to dark) and dont have different "normal patterns" on them? Some normals may have unique patterns and colors but are still normals unless proven otherwise. Dont criticize peoples posts unless you intend on making a contribution to them, not just writing "WRONG".