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  • 02-04-2011, 10:56 AM
    reptile_republic
    I breed my Bbee with pied and pastel=??????
    What offspring will i got when i first saw lock with my female bumblee and my male pied, after a week I put my male pastel to my bumblee....
  • 02-04-2011, 11:18 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: I breed my Bbee with pied and pastel=??????
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by johnny_tuddao View Post
    What offspring will i got when i first saw lock with my female bumblee and my male pied, after a week I put my male pastel to my bumblee....

    Technically depending on the sire.

    Pied to Bumblebee = 25% het Pied + 25%Spider het Pied + 25%Pastel het Pied + 25% Bumble Bee het Pied

    Pastel to Bumblebee = 12.5% Normal + 25% Pastel + 12.5% Spider + 25% Bumble Bee + 12.5% Super Pastel + 12.5%Killer Bee


    Problem is by doing this you could have one male or the other siring the clutch or even both.

    Now let's say you do not hatch a super pastel or a killer bee do not go and assume that the pied was the sire, you could very well have the pastel siring the clutch and miss out on the odds.

    So in conclusion the problem when you breed a co-dom and a recessive to the same female is that you cannot guarantee which animal was the sire and therefore cannot sale the offsprings as hets
  • 02-04-2011, 11:22 AM
    MitsuMike
    That is not even worth doing, HUGE waste of time.

    With the pied lock up your looking at getting at het pied animals, BUT when you throw in your pastel your screwing it all up making them all 50% ph (which in the reptile market means nothing)

    Stick with the one male or the other.
  • 02-04-2011, 03:10 PM
    Pinoy Pythons
    Its gonna be really hard to determine which of the 2 males sired the offspring whatever the outcome is. Even w/ the presence of the markers, you still cant guarantee. Labeling the offspring can be an issue too since its not a guarantee that they will be het for pied.
  • 02-04-2011, 04:54 PM
    Subdriven
    :O:rolleye2::O:rolleye2::O:rolleye2:

    You can basicaly forget the fact that you breed a peid to that female.. You will not get peids and the only way to tell if the peid sired any of the clutch at all would be saving them and breading them ALL back to a peid. The Peid could of sired 1 egg, all eggs, or no eggs.. You never know in this world.......
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