Crider and ultramels

Some say that they are they are the same morph. Is this true? If they are diffrent which is the better morph? Are there any problems with them like kinking with carmels or like duckbill with super black pastels?

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Originally Posted by mpenny

Some say that they are they are the same morph. Is this true? If they are diffrent which is the better morph? Are there any problems with them like kinking with carmels or like duckbill with super black pastels?

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Not that I've heard, but indeed they look quite the same and all being recessive morphs. Maybe those that actually own both can give a better feedback.

This is from Ghi Balls

The 'Crider' ball is a recessive morph that has been around for sometime now with little understanding of what it's all about.
The morph has been thought of as another strain of T+ albino and only recently have we realized that they have black eyes and now along with other breeders, we believe that they are not a strain of T+ but that they are indeed their own morph.
No babies to date have been born with kinks and when bred to other strains of T+'s no visual Criders have hatched...
just normal looking babies which are actually double hets.
As babies they are electric and look like very intense T+'s and as they mature they become a beautiful animal with the oranges turning more yellow over time.
Matt Lerer. GHI Reptiles

We should know very shortly whether they are compatible or not. I believe Brock and someone else are breeding a visual to het.