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  • 12-12-2010, 07:41 PM
    Dragon Queen
    How do I get.....
    I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to help me out. I am trying to plan my breeding projects, for when I decide to start expanding my collection. I'm not 100% sure I will, but I thought if I know what I need, then I can keep my eye out for the perfect snake while I am waiting to decide (finding the perfect snake will mean decision over of course. lol)

    I think, considering that I have a pinstripe, a Kingpin is a good goal. From what I understand, that would be pinstripe x lesser (are lesser platinum and lesser the same).

    I have also come across some pictures of the Queen Bee morph, and nearly fell over. I know that it requires a spider (one of my favorites, what I had originally wanted) a lesser (which works with my kingpin plans) and a pastel. I was wondering how I would breed them together (what order) and what my chances are of getting the baby(s) I want, for both projects.


    Thanks so much!

    -Draba
  • 12-12-2010, 07:52 PM
    millcityballs
    a very usefull tool..........http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/
  • 12-12-2010, 07:58 PM
    Dragon Queen
    Thanks! I have tried using that before but it doesn't help me with how to get the Queen Bee.
  • 12-12-2010, 08:01 PM
    JLC
    Re: How do I get.....
    Yes, lesser and lesser-platinum are the same.

    A queen bee will take more than one generation to establish, unless you buy a bee right off the bat.

    Spider x pastel = bee
    bee x lesser = queen bee

    Of course, there's no guarantees on hitting the odds, but that is how one goes about it. You could also do:

    lesser x spider = lesser-bee
    lesser-bee x pastel = queen bee

    ...or any similar combination. Obviously the quickest way would be to get a bee to start with.
  • 12-12-2010, 08:03 PM
    A&S Reptiles
    Re: How do I get.....
    To achieve the queen bee you'll want a bumble bee and a lesser. And of course some luck with hitting the queen bee. A female lesser would be a good choice and you can even breed the bee and your pin to her in one season and get a mixed clutch. With this you could produce a queen bee or king pin or even both!
  • 12-12-2010, 08:05 PM
    millcityballs
    Re: How do I get.....
    pastel lesser x spider or bumble bee x lesser or lesser bee x pastel.
  • 12-12-2010, 08:09 PM
    smd58
    Re: How do I get.....
    Nothing says you can't have more then one project going at a time. Seems every time you pick up a snake it can be used to make a lot of different morps.
  • 12-12-2010, 09:15 PM
    Dragon Queen
    Thank you! This is all very helpful. I think it makes the most sense to go with a Bee. I have been wanting one anyways, and it means I will only have to get 2 snakes, the bee and a lesser. :)
  • 12-12-2010, 09:45 PM
    millcityballs
    Re: How do I get.....
    :gj:.....and you'll need to do a little :please:
  • 12-12-2010, 10:44 PM
    Subdriven
    If you start with single morphs you would need 2 of the three to first hit in the same snake like using a spider and a pastel to try to make a bee. Then when you hit that you grow that animal and add the the 3rd gene which in this case will be the lesser. Then you have to hope that all 3 genes hit in 1 animal. You can up your chances and time if you either buy a duel gene of the 3 or by a super version of the pastel or lesser (there is no super spider). The super form will up your chances to pass atleast 1 of the genes along to the babies.

    In the end you are trying to get all 3 gene's to be in 1 animal and each gene has a 50% chance.
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