HELP! Dunno what pairs to do :(

So in short this is what I've got to work with and I don't know a whole lot about the genetics and market...

Pastel Male
Butterscotch Ghost Male
Mojave Male
Pinstripe Male
Black Pastel Male
Spider Male
Butter Male
Albino Male
Fire Male
Lesser Male
100% Het Caramel Male
Caramel Male
Caramel Female
100% Het VPI Axanthic Lesser Female
Butter Female
Albino Female
Pastel Female
100% Het Albino Female

I kniow and understand some of the simple morphs but the more complex 2 codom and 3 codom morphs are outside my brain at this time sadly :(

Personally I'd start a Caramel Glow project with the male Ghost and the Female Caramel. Stick the Albino Female with the Spider or Pinstripe male(but thats another recesive project). Probably go with the Spider with the albino and then the Pinstripe with the butter, do some kingpins. The alternate the pastel and black pastel with the pastel female. Sell the butter or lesser male, unless you want to do specific bels at some point. and sell the het caramel and het albino. with the funds from them get a male with axanthic genes. The second part would only work if your not attached to all your animals directly and were striving toward specific snakes.

Just my $.02 of course

You have all these morphs and don't know what they will produce?

You can't just post stuff up and ask........well what should I produce?
Questions you need to consider:
Do I want to work on a project animal that may take 3 years to produce (recessive)
Do I want quick co-dom morphs instead and not worry about hets?
Do you want super forms or just combos?
Will this be a hold back year or a year for selling?

There is just too many possibilities out there and you need to really sit down and see what you like and your into wanting before anything.

Caramel Female pinstripe or spider male. hope to hit a male to breed back to her next year and have a half decent shot to produce pin/spider caramels. a caramel glow project will take many more years than that, but is also a viable option


100% Het VPI Axanthic Lesser Female nothing really fits this girl well for my taste in axanthic projects, and you have no vpi axanthic males, so this one's up in the air

Butter Female butter, fire, or pinstripe, depending which offspring you like better


Albino Female albino male. a full clutch of albinos is nice to have, and they're easy to sell. Albinos are always a crowd-pleaser morph


Pastel Female butter, fire, or pinstripe, depending which offspring you like better


100% Het Albino Female albino male. produce more albinos, same reasoning as with the albino female.

IMO you are way too male heavy. I try to keep my snakes 1 female for every 3-5 males.

Also, when starting a collection...It is generally a good idea to purchase/acquire animals that you already have plans for. It should be more strategic than just buying a bunch of BP's.

That being said...You have a great pool to chose from and given a little thought, you should be able to come up with some great combos! My first choice would be Butter x Butter...Maybe try to get some BEL's? Then maybe Spider x Albino, so you can work on getting Albino Spiders?

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Originally Posted by azmodane

So in short this is what I've got to work with and I don't know a whole lot about the genetics and market...

Pastel Male
Butterscotch Ghost Male
Mojave Male
Pinstripe Male
Black Pastel Male
Spider Male
Butter Male
Albino Male
Fire Male
Lesser Male
100% Het Caramel Male
Caramel Male
Caramel Female
100% Het VPI Axanthic Lesser Female
Butter Female
Albino Female
Pastel Female
100% Het Albino Female

I kniow and understand some of the simple morphs but the more complex 2 codom and 3 codom morphs are outside my brain at this time sadly :(

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Looks like you are pretty male heavy right now. You can really do any pairings you want. It depends on what you personally want to try and hatch out. Every animal I pick up I already have it in my mind who I am going to pair them up with the time I get them, be it hatchling, sub adult or adult. You also got to keep in mind some males won't step up to the plate, some females will not be interested in certain males etc. You can also through multiple males on a female for a who's your daddy clutch. But to keep it simple and to answer your question:

Caramel Male or Butterscotch Ghost Male x Caramel Female

Lesser Male (any would work though, just depends on what you want to try hatch out) x 100% Het VPI Axanthic Lesser Female

Butter Male x Butter Female (Shoot for a BEL)

Albino Male x Albino Female (Unless you want to throw something else on her to produce some 100% het albino spider, pins, black pastels or whatever)

Pin (shoot for blasts), Spider (shoot for bees), lesser (shoot for lesser pastels), butter (shoot for butter pastels), mojo (shoot for pastaves), fire (shoot for fireflys) x Pastel Female

Albino Male x 100% Het Albino Female - This one is pretty cut and dry. If you use anything else you will only produce possible hets. If you use your 100% het albino male then your percentage of getting albino's goes down.

I guess when i posted that last night I was pretty out of it from lack of sleep and just assumed everyone was in my head already =P... To expand a little more I've basically gotten all these in a nice trade on my end. I was looking for some quick breeds to make some money back then some long term breeds. I was also looking to find some pairs that I could use and then sell off the excess males since I do have a lot of males without having a great pair up with. Thanks everyone for all the information already and I would love to hear more from everyone!