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  • 10-28-2010, 09:19 AM
    Bruceweb
    Het pied poss het markers..2 different sets of markers showing..advice please
    Some of my dhet pied poss het axanthic babies have different markers..around half are showing the typical pied markers..the other half dont seem to have them as such..yellow edges closer down to the tail & speckles..also they are much more bright with more blushing..do you think their is a difference on the het pieds & the het pied axanthics?
    This first guy is one I suspect to be dhet
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...t_shed_009.jpg

    This is a belly shot
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...aby_1f_002.jpg

    Here isa shotof one with the standard pied markers
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...baby_2_001.jpg
  • 10-28-2010, 11:09 AM
    steveboos
    Your not going to be able to tell at all untill your breed them. It's impossible to determine by markers if they are Hets. I would just hold off and wait, no reason to have a bunch of people on here tell you they ARE markers, then when you breed them out and get disappointing, then you'll be angry at us!
  • 10-28-2010, 12:49 PM
    Bruceweb
    Re: Het pied poss het markers..2 different sets of markers showing..advice please
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveboos View Post
    Your not going to be able to tell at all untill your breed them. It's impossible to determine by markers if they are Hets. I would just hold off and wait, no reason to have a bunch of people on here tell you they ARE markers, then when you breed them out and get disappointing, then you'll be angry at us!

    Cheers..I'm aware that you cant def tell until you prove them out, just that it seems odd that their are two different patterns & markings in the clutch, Mark Mandic sent me pics of his het pied axanthics showing a huge difference in colour as they grow..thats the only difference he noticed..Thanks again..no harm in asking :gj:
  • 10-28-2010, 01:43 PM
    steveboos
    Yeah definitely no harm, i will have to say though both have a ton of blushing on the head, which is definitely something different. Also it seems as if the first one has tons of blushing on his body. You might start something if the hets after this have the same markings!!
  • 10-29-2010, 10:56 AM
    Bruceweb
    Re: Het pied poss het markers..2 different sets of markers showing..advice please
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveboos View Post
    Yeah definitely no harm, i will have to say though both have a ton of blushing on the head, which is definitely something different. Also it seems as if the first one has tons of blushing on his body. You might start something if the hets after this have the same markings!!

    I am hoping to breed another clutch of 100% dhets this season so should have a comparison..:gj:

    Heres a pic of the dhet pied axanthics as it grows sent by Mark..markusjayne..assume the one on the left is axanthic..mark just said their is a BIG colour differenceas they grow..opinionsappreciated as didnt quite understand which is which
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...het-comp_1.jpg
  • 10-29-2010, 11:08 AM
    Bruceweb
    Re: Het pied poss het markers..2 different sets of markers showing..advice please
    Heres a comparison pic of pied het axanthic grown on
    http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...t_axanthic.jpg
  • 12-13-2010, 11:15 PM
    ace_singapore
    Re: Het pied poss het markers..2 different sets of markers showing..advice please
    Thanks for sharing the pictures; I am also thinking about starting the Axn Pied project, so do you get one Axn and breed to a Pied frist?
  • 12-14-2010, 05:24 PM
    Bruceweb
    Re: Het pied poss het markers..2 different sets of markers showing..advice please
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ace_singapore View Post
    Thanks for sharing the pictures; I am also thinking about starting the Axn Pied project, so do you get one Axn and breed to a Pied frist?

    You breed pied & axanthic..then breed the sibling together..its a 1/16 chance
  • 12-14-2010, 08:57 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    The pied het axanthic has that much of a color difference? That's insane!

    Are there het axanthic markers? I'm aware of het pied markers, but not axanthic.
  • 12-16-2010, 12:18 PM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Het pied poss het markers..2 different sets of markers showing..advice please
    I forget, did Mr. Mandic narrow down which axanthic line he had in his pied project?

    I've got a possible double het vpi axanthic pied male with good pied markers. Now I'm going to have to start watching his color.
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