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  • 10-11-2010, 07:21 PM
    geekypythongirl
    My new male - Don't know what he is!
    So, this is my new male. He's the only one of the new snakes I can take a picture of tonight, as he was the only picky little turd to not eat last night.

    He's a pretty little guy, and I am told he comes from a Pastel x Pastel mating.

    You'll have to excuse my husbands dirty hands in the pictures!

    His head:
    http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...bpmalehead.jpg

    His belly:
    http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...om/bpmale4.jpg

    Close up of his side:
    http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...om/bpmale3.jpg

    Side again:
    http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...om/bpmale2.jpg

    Full body shot:
    http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...om/bpmale1.jpg

    I don't know if he himself is a pastel, but I do know he's het at least. Either way, its not that big of a deal, I saw him and fell in love, so that was that!
  • 10-11-2010, 07:27 PM
    Bellabob
    He just looks like a really awesome normal.
  • 10-11-2010, 07:28 PM
    AkHerps
    Pastels usually have green eyes, and his eyes do not appear to be green, so I say a normal.

    But wouldn't pastel x pastel make all pastels?
  • 10-11-2010, 07:30 PM
    JLC
    Re: My new male - Don't know what he is!
    He's a very pretty normal. There is no such thing as a "het for pastel." They are either pastel, or they are not. But he's a handsome boy, even so!
  • 10-11-2010, 07:32 PM
    JLC
    Re: My new male - Don't know what he is!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AkHerps View Post
    Pastels usually have green eyes, and his eyes do not appear to be green, so I say a normal, and if you are 100% certain of the pairing, then het pastel.

    But wouldn't pastel x pastel make all pastels?

    There is no "het pastel".

    Pastel x pastel will give you a chance of getting: Super-pastels, pastels, or normals. This one is a normal, and has no chance of having pastel offspring unless bred to an actual pastel. (In which case, the mother would be passing on the pastel gene, not this one)
  • 10-11-2010, 07:33 PM
    Brie
    Isn't the "pastel" a dom or co-dom? If so, shouldn't pastel x pastel = pastel?
    I'm still learning all this genetic stuff so I am prolly very wrong.

    Edit - Nevermind
  • 10-11-2010, 07:34 PM
    SUPERBALLS
    Re: My new male - Don't know what he is!
    pastel to pastel does not make all pastels sorry, and as far as being het theres no such thing as a het for pastel, pastels are co-dom so its either a pastel or not and unfortinitly thats not a pastel just a normal, but you like him and thats all that counts right

    pastel to pastel you can get super pastels, pastels and normals
  • 10-11-2010, 07:37 PM
    ed4281
    Re: My new male - Don't know what he is!
    Your snake is very pretty, however pics with better lighting would be great, some pics he looks pastel, some he looks normal.

    The pastel gene does not work that way, not to get too into genetics but the pastel morph is a co-dominate morph meaning that any normal offspring produced are just that, normal. They are not het for pastel.If you breed a normal to a normal you will only get normals, no matter what co-dom morph one of the parents are. The term het only applies to recessive genes such as albino, lavender, pied, clown etc.

    A pastel x pastel pairing will give you,
    25% super pastels
    25% pastel
    50% normal

    I think

    But the is a very pretty snake
  • 10-11-2010, 07:38 PM
    geekypythongirl
    Re: My new male - Don't know what he is!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SUPERBALLS View Post
    pastel to pastel does not make all pastels sorry, and as far as being het theres no such thing as a het for pastel, pastels are co-dom so its either a pastel or not and unfortinitly thats not a pastel just a normal, but you like him and thats all that counts right

    pastel to pastel you can get super pastels, pastels and normals

    Thanks everyone for all the genetics information. I do like him, and he only cost me 20 bucks, so I wasn't lied to. He's a sweetie too!
  • 10-11-2010, 07:42 PM
    steveboos
    Wow 20 for him is a steal!! Great find, lets see him when hes full grown!!
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