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ASF pattern ?

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  • 10-09-2010, 09:04 PM
    GoffJ
    ASF pattern ?
    I'm starting to breed for less color. I had a few show up in a litter and held them back. They bred and it seems to be a recessive trait because I got a lot more of them. Does this reduced pattern have a name?

    http://dailybulldogs.com/balls/pics/rats/sf_1.jpg

    http://dailybulldogs.com/balls/pics/rats/sf_2.jpg

    http://dailybulldogs.com/balls/pics/rats/sf_3.jpg
  • 10-09-2010, 09:16 PM
    llovelace
    Cool, you are close to producing all whites :)
  • 10-09-2010, 10:55 PM
    Rhasputin
    They are still just called Piebalds. If you can get them to have no markings at all, they are called 'High whites'.


    Where are you located? Probably a million miles from me, but I am looking for some ASFs with smaller markings! :)


    It's not a recessive trait. It's just that you can breed the ones with smaller and smaller markings together, and they will produce fewer and fewer spots. Ditto with the other direction, you can breed the piebald ones with big markings to other ones with big markings, and get bigger and bigger markings. :)

    You can also make them have spots in specific places. If you find one with a spot you like, and breed it to one with a similar spot, you'll get more with the same kinds of spots!

    Phew!
  • 10-10-2010, 09:27 AM
    GoffJ
    Re: ASF pattern ?
    Thanks,
    I did notice that the spots get smaller when two of the higher whites are bred together. It would be nice to make an all white one! There are a few babies with barley any color. It would be nice to create soft furs with all types of colors and markings.

    Here is a couple pics of the higher white x higher white offspring.

    http://dailybulldogs.com/balls/pics/rats/sf_4.jpg

    http://dailybulldogs.com/balls/pics/rats/sf_5.jpg

    I am located about an hour south of Cleveland in Ohio.
  • 10-10-2010, 10:39 AM
    Rhasputin
    Oh so you're not terribly far, but you're not terribly close either. :(

    I'm in Richmond Virginia. Any chance you know of someone headed out this way who could transport? I'm working on platinum, and high white ASFs, but I'm starting from 100% scratch. Getting one or two of your critters would definitely help me jump start my white progress.

    Or, if you're ever out this way, I'd love to meet up and grab a few of those cuties!


    I think I may have found a black ASF mutation in my lines. I'm not 100% sure about it though.
    I'm glad more and more people are breeding these, it's really awesome to see the new colours cropping up. Eventually, I'm sure there will be as many colours and types as there are in rats and mice!
  • 10-10-2010, 12:13 PM
    NotaMallard
    Those are awesome! What's your zip code? I'm very interested in buying some. PM me if you'd rather do that.
  • 10-10-2010, 01:08 PM
    GoffJ
    Re: ASF pattern ?
    Thanks! My zip code is 44216
  • 10-10-2010, 01:11 PM
    GoffJ
    Re: ASF pattern ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rhasputin View Post
    Oh so you're not terribly far, but you're not terribly close either. :(

    I'm in Richmond Virginia. Any chance you know of someone headed out this way who could transport? I'm working on platinum, and high white ASFs, but I'm starting from 100% scratch. Getting one or two of your critters would definitely help me jump start my white progress.

    Or, if you're ever out this way, I'd love to meet up and grab a few of those cuties!


    I think I may have found a black ASF mutation in my lines. I'm not 100% sure about it though.
    I'm glad more and more people are breeding these, it's really awesome to see the new colours cropping up. Eventually, I'm sure there will be as many colours and types as there are in rats and mice!

    Thanks! I'll let you know if I'm ever in the area! I would love to do some trades! I also raise American Bulldogs, so I am not able to travel very often.
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