panda pied project info needed

i want to start a panda pied project, what snakes do i need to start this? doing it from the ground up.

Easiest way to start would be getting a pied, and a cinny (or black pastel). Breed, get cinnies (or black pastels) het. pied.
Breed them back to the pied (or another pied to expand gene pool) and have a small chance of getting the pied cinny.
Then breed pied cinny to a cinny het. pied and have the small chance of hitting the super cinny pied (panda pied).

Will take years even if you are amazingly lucky.

thanks for the info, i have the pied part covered, now to get part two, the time i have lots of

The panda pied was super blackpastel x pied, but you'd get the same snake with super cinnamon.

I want to make one one day too! Got cinnys myself, hoping to breed a pied this year. Good luck to you!

To save some time I woud try to find a breeder size super cinny or a super cinny het pied! If you can find a super cinny het pied then you can start right away!

I started my Pewter Pied project 2 years ago and hit on it this year. One more clutch to go. If you have breedable adults, it's possible to hit within 2 years depending on how long it takes to get your offspring up to size.

here's a link:

http://ballpythonbreeder.com/2009/02...-python-video/

How big is your pied, and what sex? The limiting factor is always the females--you have to wait for her to get up to size, and then you have to wait for her black pastel het pied daughter(s) to get up to size.

You can pick up a black pastel het pied MALE almost anytime for (relatively) cheap. But the girls are pricey, and then you still have to grow her up.

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Originally Posted by Brandon Osborne

I started my Pewter Pied project 2 years ago and hit on it this year. One more clutch to go. If you have breedable adults, it's possible to hit within 2 years depending on how long it takes to get your offspring up to size.

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Wait, does that mean you have a pewter pied to show? Where are the pics at?

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Originally Posted by loonunit

Wait, does that mean you have a pewter pied to show? Where are the pics at?

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Here you go. Not exactly what I was hoping for, but still a very cool looking animal. I have one more clutch due to hatch in about a week.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF9902.jpg

There is possibly something else going on with my Pewters as well. I have no idea what the patternless/striped animal is. This was Pewter het Pied to Pewter.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF9952.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF9944.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF9947.jpg
Even the Super Pastel is different. Probably the best looking super I've ever seen.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/DSCF9950.jpg