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  • 09-11-2010, 09:38 PM
    j.j
    New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    Sorry" for the Newbey aproach! but new to the morph scene! kept a pied few years back mind! im just wondering whots a good ball morph to start with is!
    iv around £4000 pounds" to get on the ladder!
    i do like the clown" and clown morphs!

    thanks j.j
  • 09-11-2010, 10:26 PM
    bsash
    I love piebalds and their combinations, so that is a lot of what I am working with. I am not sure how much your money converts to in U.S. dollars, but if you had enough I would get both a clown and a piebald, male and female to try and breed for clown piebalds.
  • 09-11-2010, 10:32 PM
    mechnut450
    Re: New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsash View Post
    I love piebalds and their combinations, so that is a lot of what I am working with. I am not sure how much your money converts to in U.S. dollars, but if you had enough I would get both a clown and a piebald, male and female to try and breed for clown piebalds.


    the op would only produce dh snakes from a clown and pied pair ( both just being visible for the single trait).
    I look for something you like and if the combo is out of your price range just get the base for it and try luck at breeding. it just takes time and well worth the effort ( coming form a guy who produced his first pied this year.)
  • 09-11-2010, 10:37 PM
    bsash
    Re: New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mechnut450 View Post
    the op would only produce dh snakes from a clown and pied pair ( both just being visible for the single trait).
    I look for something you like and if the combo is out of your price range just get the base for it and try luck at breeding. it just takes time and well worth the effort ( coming form a guy who produced his first pied this year.)

    I am aware that they would only have double het. clown piebald snakes, but it would be a very cool thing to try for in the future.
  • 09-12-2010, 01:06 AM
    don15681
    Re: New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    buy the snake that catches your eye. if you're thinking about breeding get your females first.
  • 09-12-2010, 05:26 AM
    j.j
    Re: New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    Thanks guys! will go the clown root" as i love them killer clowns!

    whot is needed for a killer clown!! is it super pastel"" clown!!
  • 09-12-2010, 06:52 AM
    seeya205
    I would but the one you like the most that you can afford! Definately buy females if you are planning to breed! It takes 3 years to get a female up to breeding size but males only take up to a year! You should buy a male super pastel and a female clown if you want killer clowns!
  • 09-12-2010, 11:29 AM
    dr del
    Re: New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    Hi,

    Have you seen the lesser clowns?

    A good sized female clown and a male lesser might be a good combo for your money.

    I know it is what I dream of at night. :rofl:


    dr del
  • 09-12-2010, 11:51 AM
    j.j
    Re: New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    Have you seen the lesser clowns?

    A good sized female clown and a male lesser might be a good combo for your money.

    I know it is what I dream of at night. :rofl:


    dr del

    Lesser clowns! Dont think iv sean yet! has good as a killer?

    will try and pick up grown on female clown thow!!
  • 09-12-2010, 12:13 PM
    dr del
    Re: New to the ball game! whot morph to start with!
    Hi,

    Here are some pics PantherCZ took of Brocks snakes;

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_5521.jpg

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_4051.jpg

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_4054.jpg

    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_4058.jpg

    There is a group shot of them in John Berry's new edition of designer morphs (page 82 if memory serves ).

    They are almost heart stoppingly beautiful. :wuv:


    dr del
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