Pastel?

Everywhere I take my bp people say she's def. not a normal BP. She has that pastel gene, not as bright as some pastels I have seen but still very obvious. Here are a few pics days before she started the shedding phase. Let me know what you think!



http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...2_633527_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4920054_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8137643_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...0_868452_n.jpg

I see no pastel in there at all, I'm sorry to say. All I see is a busy pattern normal.

100% not pastel. Makes me think of a spot nose.. however the only way to prove her possible genetics is to breed her out. Unless you bought her as a morph 99% of the time it's a normal.

So if she does not contain at least some mutation of the pastel gene, why does she look so different from the normal brown/black ball pythons? She is obviously brighter and lighter than the brown/black BP's, what is this?


I didn't think she was really a pastel BP either, however when I hold her next to "normal" BP's, she def. stands out. I have even had ppl tell me this with no reference point.


Also, if you look at the first pic, the line through the tail is very obviously yellow. Most "normal" bp's I know of have no yellow.

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Originally Posted by bad-one

100% not pastel. Makes me think of a spot nose.. however the only way to prove her possible genetics is to breed her out. Unless you bought her as a morph 99% of the time it's a normal.

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I just looked up spot nose, nebver heard that before. I think you are right; what exactly is a spot nose bp?

It's just another morph (co-dom I believe). However, odds are she is completely normal. I've seen normals with that high gold dorsal coloration. Normals can vary vastly and you happen to have a very nice one at that.

Normals have an incredible range of colors and patterns. She really just looks like a high gold normal. Here are pics of two normals Ive had.

http://iherp.com/Gallery/88170/44771...3M202ZyFXE.jpg

http://iherp.com/Gallery/88170/1815_...SRkTepMXcb.jpg

Both are 100% normal.

I have a friend who has one even lighter than yours, looks like a pastel but has spot nose head markings, and to top it off has the wobble of a spider :confused:

That's pretty interesting, thank you for all these replies.


Can someone explain co-dominant? What would the co-dominant gene be?

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Originally Posted by aalomon

Normals have an incredible range of colors and patterns. She really just looks like a high gold normal. Here are pics of two normals Ive had.

http://iherp.com/Gallery/88170/44771...3M202ZyFXE.jpg

http://iherp.com/Gallery/88170/1815_...SRkTepMXcb.jpg

Both are 100% normal.

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Interesting.


So what makes these BP's "normal" if it obviously isn't their looks? Phenotype/genotype? What truly differentiates one BP from the next? I mean a Spider BP doesn't look "normal," but neither do some of the pics you posted, in relation to a regular brown/black BP. So what makes one BP a "normal," and another BP a "Pastel," as opposed to a normal that visually looks like a pastel?