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Het Red question

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  • 08-25-2010, 10:52 PM
    ed4281
    Het Red question
    So a het red axanthic is a super form of the genetic black back?

    I just saw a cinnamon het red on kingsnake and it was amazing.

    If it is a super form why is it called a het?
  • 08-25-2010, 10:58 PM
    PythonChick
    The Het Red is its own codom mutation. Its super form is called a Red Axanthic. It is a confusing name since the Het Red is actually a visible animal, but that's just how it is. The a cinnamon het reds are amazing! I think people call them gargoyles or something similar. Anyway, it is an animal carrying one copy of the cinnamon gene and one copy of the het red gene. Usually het reds are blackbacks, but they have other traits as well. Check out Corey Wood's website. I believe he was one of (if not the) first to prove out the Het Red trait.
  • 08-25-2010, 11:01 PM
    MarkS
    No, a het red axanthic is just what it says, Het for a form of axanthic called the red axanthic, however the hets are often black backs themselves so it's kind of a nice addition to a mix where you want the black back look.
  • 08-26-2010, 10:42 AM
    ColdBloodedCarnival
    Re: Het Red question
    The name "Het Red Axanthic" does sometimes confuse people into thinking its a recessive trait, but it's actually a co-dominant. The het reds usually have black backs with lots of blushing and a somewhat red coloration as adults. The super form (Red Axanthics) are axanthics that tend to have crazy patterns.
  • 08-26-2010, 09:24 PM
    jben
    Re: Het Red question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ColdBloodedCarnival View Post
    The name "Het Red Axanthic" does sometimes confuse people into thinking its a recessive trait, but it's actually a co-dominant. The het reds usually have black backs with lots of blushing and a somewhat red coloration as adults. The super form (Red Axanthics) are axanthics that tend to have crazy patterns.

    Thank you for clearing that up, I know that I read some where that het reds are co-doms. I was talking to a local breeder (mom & pop PS) and he kept insisting that het reds are recessive and I kept telling him that he is wrong.
  • 08-26-2010, 10:02 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Het Red question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jben View Post
    Thank you for clearing that up, I know that I read some where that het reds are co-doms. I was talking to a local breeder (mom & pop PS) and he kept insisting that het reds are recessive and I kept telling him that he is wrong.

    They are co-dominant but it's real subtle. People who know that they are doing can usually pick them out, but it's not that much of a difference from the normal look. I think that's why Corey started calling them het reds, he got tired of people always saying 'I can't tell the difference between that and a normal' when it was obvious to him which was which.
  • 08-27-2010, 10:18 AM
    ColdBloodedCarnival
    Re: Het Red question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    They are co-dominant but it's real subtle. People who know that they are doing can usually pick them out, but it's not that much of a difference from the normal look. I think that's why Corey started calling them het reds, he got tired of people always saying 'I can't tell the difference between that and a normal' when it was obvious to him which was which.

    Some are very subtle and some aren't. I have seen some het reds that are pretty unmistakable!
  • 08-27-2010, 10:41 AM
    catawhat75
    Re: Het Red question
    I know the two that came out of my clutch this season were unmistakable from the normals.
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