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Micro-chipping BP

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  • 08-24-2010, 08:38 PM
    asixtwo
    Micro-chipping BP
    A question for the other breeders out there....
    I was thinking of micro-chipping my hets and high end morphs to keep better track of them.
    Does anyone have any ideas on the matter?
  • 08-24-2010, 08:52 PM
    bsash
    I'll be doing all of mine next year. You can not track them or anything with it, it is just for identification purposes. For example, if your snakes are to get stolen, you can only prove they are yours, not find out where they are.
  • 08-24-2010, 09:03 PM
    asixtwo
    Re: Micro-chipping BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asixtwo View Post
    A question for the other breeders out there....
    I was thinking of micro-chipping my hets and high end morphs to keep better track of them.
    Does anyone have any ideas on the matter?

    Here's another scenario.....

    A good friend of mine just sold some one a snake....
    The guy called him up 3 days later and said the snake died.
    The snake he brought back to him was a different snake!
    Micro-chipping would have eliminated a lot of confusion and B/S!
  • 08-24-2010, 09:13 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Micro-chipping BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asixtwo View Post
    Here's another scenario.....

    A good friend of mine just sold some one a snake....
    The guy called him up 3 days later and said the snake died.
    The snake he brought back to him was a different snake!
    Micro-chipping would have eliminated a lot of confusion and B/S!

    So would a simple photo ID with the snake porchase...A lot easier IMO.
  • 08-24-2010, 09:31 PM
    asixtwo
    Re: Micro-chipping BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    So would a simple photo ID with the snake porchase...A lot easier IMO.

    Photo ID is unreliable at best, (and not legally binding) even if the animal is still alive.
    Once the snake dies and starts to deteriorate, photo ID is pretty much irrelevant.
    Even a snake that's been necropsied, or frozen can be verified with a simple chip reader.
    And...
    I won't even consider buying an adult het based on a hatchling photo ID, unless I personally know the breeder.
    Plus...
    It's a foolproof way track hets even when "helpers"/employees mix up snakes.
  • 08-24-2010, 09:36 PM
    kellysballs
    I was also thinking on this subject a few years back. http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=103844 This is the link for the conversation. It is a good idea and I like it but I have not done it yet.
  • 08-25-2010, 11:12 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Micro-chipping BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asixtwo View Post
    Photo ID is unreliable at best, (and not legally binding) even if the animal is still alive.
    Once the snake dies and starts to deteriorate, photo ID is pretty much irrelevant.
    Even a snake that's been necropsied, or frozen can be verified with a simple chip reader.

    This is completely incorrect. A snakes pattern is just like a fingerprint. It never changes. I have a photo of every snake I have ever purchased and produced. I have used these photos numerous times to id snakes that I sold 3 or 4 years ago, and also to id snakes that got mis labeled in tubs. I am no lawyer, but I am pretty sure that a photo of the animal would definitely be admissable in a legal trial, as it does positively identify the snake.
  • 08-25-2010, 11:18 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Micro-chipping BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asixtwo View Post
    And...
    I won't even consider buying an adult het based on a hatchling photo ID, unless I personally know the breeder.
    Plus...
    It's a foolproof way track hets even when "helpers"/employees mix up snakes.

    I would never do such a thing, but many liars have been exposed over the last 10 years for selling fake hets. I have about 30 normals hatched out already this year. I can put a microchip in every one of them and sell them to you as Het Clowns, Pieds, Caramels, Genetic stripes and Hypos. However, that microchip doesn't make them heterozygous. I then leave town with my pocketfull of your money, and am never seen again. What does that chip do for you then? Buy hets from reputable breeders, and you shouldn't have to worry.
  • 08-25-2010, 11:37 AM
    loonunit
    Re: Micro-chipping BP
    I've considered chipping my morphs out of paranoia, but I'd like to be able to have some kind of chip that lets me ID my hets quickly. You know, in the event that I didn't take photos, and I mix them up in the tubs or something.... but the only chipping I'm familiar with is Home Again, and it's a.) pricey and b.) not really for me to use at home for IDing, but for animals that are found by local rescues and vets.

    ....or COULD I use it at home? Can I buy their little chip-reader myself, and get useful information (ie. ID numbers) out of it, without calling up Home Again every time?
  • 08-25-2010, 11:38 AM
    Dragoon
    Re: Micro-chipping BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by asixtwo View Post
    A question for the other breeders out there....
    I was thinking of micro-chipping my hets and high end morphs to keep better track of them.
    Does anyone have any ideas on the matter?

    it could work very well and a single excel spreadsheet will keep track of everything, however the scanners are expensive. but, so is mixing up 10k worth of hets. i've used the scanners at a previous job tracking micro chipped fish stocked in a area lake.
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