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  • 08-17-2010, 09:00 PM
    rj1204
    leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    So, I bought an 08 bee (703 grams when I got him) the first week of June and he has not been interested at all in eating. I have put a post about him not eating before and am following advice here on BP.net. I put a shoe box hide in his tub and have not tried to feed him for the last 3-4 weeks, along with covering his rack slot with newspaper so he is not bothered by me walking in and out of the snake room. The breeder said he never skipped a meal for him and he fed him one small live rat once every two weeks. The breeder recommended I buy a rat pup and leave it overnight since it will not chew on him. I bought a live rat pup from Big Cheese today to follow his advice. Do you guys think this is ok? Should I buy a rat crawler or fuzzy instead? I just feel uneasy about leaving anything live in his tub overnight.

    I weighed my bee two days ago and he is at 685 grams, so he has lost 17 grams over the last 2+ months of not eating. He actually weighed 701 grams two weeks ago but last week, he pooped and shed for me for the first time.
  • 08-17-2010, 09:23 PM
    ed4281
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    sometimes they go off feed. If your snake is loosing weight you should take that poop to the vet and have a fecal float done to make sure you don't have parasites. To answer your question a rat pup with unopened eyes is safe to leave over nite but never leave anything that can move around well and has teeth unattended with your snake.
  • 08-17-2010, 09:32 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    Sometimes they just get temperamental over being moved. Just keep trying once a week, and keep monitoring his weight. The live rat pup overnight is a good idea.
  • 08-17-2010, 09:54 PM
    musclebabe
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    I disagree in leaving live prey in cage unmonitored. Not a good idea'
  • 08-17-2010, 10:21 PM
    unspecified42
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    I wouldn't be too worried about the pup harming the snake, but I also wouldn't be too worried about the snake not eating at this point. It took a few of mine months to start eating again after I got them.
  • 08-17-2010, 10:31 PM
    ed4281
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by musclebabe View Post
    I disagree in leaving live prey in cage unmonitored. Not a good idea'

    I did specify not to leave any prey with open eyes that can get around as it could harm the snake. A rat pup does not fall in that catagory, its eyes are'nt open and they can barely crawl around.
  • 08-17-2010, 10:49 PM
    rj1204
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    Well, this rat pups eyes were open. It had some small teeth too so I was a little worried. I put it in with my boy and covered up the rack slot with more newspaper, then went on to feed the rest of my BP's. I checked on him after 5 minutes, pulled out the tub, and he had killed it. I checked on him again 15 minutes later and he had swallowed it. So, it looks like I will just feed him one live rat pup every 2 weeks until he starts eating regularly for me. After that, I will try to switch him over to F/T like the rest of my BP's.

    As far as weight loss, I wasn't really worried that he lost 17 grams after 10 weeks. Like I said, he was 703 grams when I got him and 701 grams just two weeks ago. He pooped and shed and I think thats where the other 15 grams or so went. I'm just happy he finally ate!
  • 08-18-2010, 01:44 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rj1204 View Post
    As far as weight loss, I wasn't really worried that he lost 17 grams after 10 weeks. Like I said, he was 703 grams when I got him and 701 grams just two weeks ago. He pooped and shed and I think thats where the other 15 grams or so went. I'm just happy he finally ate!

    Congrats, it's a relief when they finally decide to eat after a spell of non eating.
  • 08-18-2010, 02:03 PM
    tiny_tiger60978
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    What about leaving a mouse pinkie? They don't have any teeth and can barely move (eyes closed too, not to mention little to no claws)...
  • 08-18-2010, 02:07 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: leaving live rat pup overnight........good or bad idea?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tiny_tiger60978 View Post
    What about leaving a mouse pinkie? They don't have any teeth and can barely move (eyes closed too, not to mention little to no claws)...

    a mouse pinky wouldnt hurt your snake but its pretty much pointless to feed as its way to small
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