Phoenix Worms

Any experience with these?

They sell from the farm in 600+ containers and I was wondering if you buy the 600 how long of a shelf life they maintain.

Beardies love em' and leo's not so much! Their excellent, really. My beardie goes crazy for them, he gets them every morning. Their very high in protein, live extremely long and don't need to be fed (they eat the substrate they come in). We order them straight from the phoenix worm website, its much cheaper then buying them from a herp shop (plus most don't sell them!). Occasionally you need to wet their substrate because it gets dry which causes them to stop eating, but only put a tiny amount in. Don't soak it! They only thing I'll say is, don't buy the largest size because their at the end of their life cycle and die pretty quickly and have a wicked raunchy odor. You know their going to die soon because they turn black, so use the black ones up first. Hope that helped!

if I'm not mistaken Phoenix Worms are related to wax worms. and pretty sure they turn into something else not just die off. even if they aint related to wax worms they are a grub which is larvae stage insect.

all you wanted to know about phoenix worms
Phoenix Worms are a high-calcium soft bodied larvae of the Black Soldier Fly. They do not carry disease, and are so high in calcium that many reptile experts reccomend them over other soft bodied grubs. Our worms are raised in a clean environment, and they are raised on a fresh grain diet.

Phoenix worms do not require refrigeration, and can tolerate high temperatures. Reptiles, amphibians, arachnids and fish love this worm.

Phoenix worms come in extra-small, small, medium and large. Large is about 3/4 of an inch long, Medium is about 1/2 of an inch long, small is about 1/4 inch and extra-small is about 1/8" long. Large phoenix worms can be used as bait.

Nutrional Analysis:

Analysis Crickets Mealworms Superworms Medium Phoenix Worms
Fat% 6.0 12.7 17.9 9.4
Protein 21.3 20.3 17.4 17.3
Calcium PPM 345 133 124 8155
Phosphorus PPM 4238 3345 2320 5355
Calcium: Phorus Ratio 0.08 0.04 0.05 1.52

* Independent lab analysis available upon request.

Our worms are packed in a non-food bedding, and do not require food. They are naturally packed with calcium and nutrients, so gut loading, feedings and special vitamins are not required. Phoenix worms have a long shelf life, should be kept in the cup the come in, and just kept out at room temperature. The only maintenence needed may be a couple drops of water from time to time! Free Shipping! Live arrival guaranteed!

Woops, I forgot the calcium part. And actually ICE, I've never had them turn into a bug. Ever, they usually just turn black and die.