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  • 07-04-2010, 12:07 PM
    SK_Exotics
    If it's ok to...
    If people here say its ok to breed spiders, even if they all apparently wobble,
    Then would it be ethical for me to selective breed for maximum wobbling?

    Thanks
    Sam
  • 07-04-2010, 12:37 PM
    axeman569
    Re: If it's ok to...
    I would personally say no, but I stayed away from spiders because I didn't want any wobble. Others will give their opinions for you as well.
  • 07-04-2010, 12:41 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: If it's ok to...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SK_Exotics View Post
    If people here say its ok to breed spiders, even if they all apparently wobble,
    Then would it be ethical for me to selective breed for maximum wobbling?

    Thanks
    Sam

    Ethical? Depends on your own ethics.

    I don't see the point of breeding to enhance a trait that is not conducive to benefiting the animal.

    If you do that, just be aware that most people, like the person that responded before me, are not interested in a super wobbly animals.

    You will have a hard time moving/housing the babies that you are breeding for.
  • 07-04-2010, 12:42 PM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: If it's ok to...
    Can't be done. The amount of wobble is a toss up, but I am assuming this thread is more about trying to prove a point then a serious idea.
  • 07-04-2010, 01:12 PM
    TheReptileEnthusiast
    Re: If it's ok to...
    Purebred dogs can have a lot of health problems.

    •Crippling bone and joint disorders
    •Eye diseases that cause reduced sight or total blindness
    •Heart diseases that drastically shorten a dog's life
    •Hormonal and endocrine system diseases like hypothyroidism and diabetes
    •Seizure disorders such as epilepsy
    •Skin diseases that cause frantic itching
    •Digestive disorders that cause chronic diarrhea and vomiting
    •Kidney and liver diseases
    •Blood-clotting diseases
    •Cancer -- the number-one killer of many, many breeds

    Over 300 genetic health problems occur in dogs -- all kinds of dogs, purebred, crossbred, and mixed -- but the risk of these health problems occurring in a purebred dog is higher than in a crossbreed or mixed breed.

    Humans have been selectively breeding animals to produce certain traits or visual looks for millenia, in spite of the genetic probems that result from breeding closely related animals.

    It is estimated that 50% of German shepards will develop hip displasia, but the breed has many redeeming qualities that make them useful to humans, and few would argue that German shepards don't enjoy thier lives. Spiders have a wobble, but they eat, breed, shed, and don't seem to suffer in any way.
  • 07-04-2010, 03:51 PM
    SK_Exotics
    Re: If it's ok to...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    I don't see the point of breeding to enhance a trait that is not conducive to benefiting the animal.

    What about hairless cats and the like? We breed for alot of traits that do not benefit the animal.
  • 07-04-2010, 03:56 PM
    2kdime
    Re: If it's ok to...
    I think you might be onto something



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfan151 View Post
    Can't be done. The amount of wobble is a toss up, but I am assuming this thread is more about trying to prove a point then a serious idea.

  • 07-04-2010, 04:00 PM
    JNballs
    Re: If it's ok to...
    even if it would be possible, I wouldn't see any sense in it! with cats and dogs we are accepting genetical health problems, in order to have other attitudes enlarged, but no one would consider the wobbling as interesting for us, or an argument for buying a spider.
  • 07-04-2010, 04:31 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: If it's ok to...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SK_Exotics View Post
    What about hairless cats and the like? We breed for alot of traits that do not benefit the animal.

    Well, you say "We" as if I am a part of that group.

    I am not.

    And, people do that only to sell to people that like that particular trait.

    In Spiders, I don't see people running out and buying the most wobbly animals out there cause its cute.

    And I agree with John and Trevor. As much as you may want to do it, Spider wobbles seem to be a crap shoot. You get it sometimes from some animals. It's never a guarantee that wobblers produce wobblers, etc.

    So there you go.
  • 07-04-2010, 06:16 PM
    TheReptileEnthusiast
    Re: If it's ok to...
    Is the OP seriously trying to start a discussion about breeding FOR wobbles? I thought it was meant as a dig on spiders and those who breed them.

    Nobody would breed for wobbles, thats just ridiculous. Many of us breed spiders or spider combos because we find them beautiful and don't see the wobbles as something that causes any physical pain or discomfort to the animal in any way.
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