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what x what = ?

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  • 06-29-2010, 01:33 PM
    mommanessy247
    what x what = ?
    a black pewter...?
  • 06-29-2010, 01:35 PM
    hunter94
    Re: what x what = ?
    Pastel x Black Pastel
  • 06-29-2010, 01:48 PM
    rjk890
    Re: what x what = ?
    Yeah, Cinnamon or Black Pastel x Pastel makes a Pewter.

    Black Pewter lets you know that a Black Pastel was used to make the Pewter and not a Cinnamon.

    Some people say that Black Pastels and Cinnamons are the same.
    I disagree, and I hate seeing one advertised as the other.
  • 06-29-2010, 01:56 PM
    mommanessy247
    Re: what x what = ?
    ive seen pics of black pastels & cinny's & i agree, theres a ton of difference in them.
  • 06-29-2010, 02:21 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: what x what = ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rjk890 View Post
    Some people say that Black Pastels and Cinnamons are the same.
    I disagree, and I hate seeing one advertised as the other.

    They are "similar" like mojo and butter are "similar" to each other.
    They are not the same and I don't see people calling them the same :confused:
  • 06-29-2010, 03:35 PM
    JenEric Reptiles
    Re: what x what = ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    They are "similar" like mojo and butter are "similar" to each other.
    They are not the same and I don't see people calling them the same :confused:

    think you mean lesser and butter
  • 06-29-2010, 03:43 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: what x what = ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JenEric Reptiles View Post
    think you mean lesser and butter

    Eh, I'll say more as a middle ground in difference leaning to the mojave side.
  • 06-29-2010, 04:24 PM
    JenEric Reptiles
    Re: what x what = ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Eh, I'll say more as a middle ground in difference leaning to the mojave side.

    what ?
    Im confused as to what either of you are saying..........Yes they produce similar off spring but a Mojave and a Lesser are in no way Similar..........pattern or color........i dont see people getting confused with a mojo and lesser..............
    i see people getting confused with a lesser and butter................ the same as they get confused when they see a black pastel and a cinny
  • 06-29-2010, 04:38 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: what x what = ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rjk890 View Post
    Yeah, Cinnamon or Black Pastel x Pastel makes a Pewter.

    Black Pewter lets you know that a Black Pastel was used to make the Pewter and not a Cinnamon.

    Some people say that Black Pastels and Cinnamons are the same.
    I disagree, and I hate seeing one advertised as the other.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mommanessy247 View Post
    ive seen pics of black pastels & cinny's & i agree, theres a ton of difference in them.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    They are "similar" like mojo and butter are "similar" to each other.
    They are not the same and I don't see people calling them the same :confused:

    The pastel x black pastel makes a black pewter.

    And as far as one being labeled the other... Some black pastels look like classic black pastels. Some look line cinnamons.

    Some cinnys look like a standard cinny, others look like black pastels.

    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...n+black+pastel this thread is a GREAT example of how similar the two morphs can be.

    I believe that the lesser and butter, and cinnamon and black pastel are two different but compatible strains of the same mutation.
  • 06-29-2010, 05:35 PM
    jsmorphs2
    Re: what x what = ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    I believe that the lesser and butter, and cinnamon and black pastel are two different but compatible strains of the same mutation.

    I agree.

    BUT there ARE clear examples of Black Pastels and Cinnys that look nothing alike. Butters and Lessers are harder to distinguish even between two great examples of each.
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