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  • 06-23-2010, 12:52 AM
    Raptor
    black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    What would happen if you crossed a fire with one of the blue eye producing morphs got a pair fire (insert morph)s and bred them together. I know realistically you'd get a combination of colors including both BELs.

    Theoretically, what would you get if you got a double BEL? Meaning it was both a blue eyed and a black eyed. I imagine it'd be white, but what about the eyes?

    Me and my random thoughts lol.

    Of course, another pondering is pair of cinnamon fires. Suspecting that would be white though.
  • 06-23-2010, 05:44 AM
    MPenn
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    My understanding is that you would get cinnys, fires, cinny fires, and normals. No BEL's of either eye color.
  • 06-23-2010, 06:07 AM
    abi21491
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    The "Double Leucistic" has been produced already, you would need a Fire Mojave (or other BEL producer) x Fire Mojave (again...) to make one. Breeding a Fire to a Mojo would give you Fires, Mojos and Fire Mojos. No leucistics. Here is a picture of a Double Lucy:

    http://wallflowerherps.weebly.com/up...9_orig.jpg?424

    As for a Cinnamon Fire x Cinnamon Fire, you could get normals, Cinnamons, Fires, Cinnamon Fires, Super Cinnamon Fires, Black-Eyed Lucy Cinnamons, or if you're really lucky, a Super Cinnamon Black Eyed Lucy ;)
  • 06-23-2010, 07:55 AM
    jkobylka
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abi21491 View Post
    The "Double Leucistic" has been produced already, you would need a Fire Mojave (or other BEL producer) x Fire Mojave (again...) to make one. Breeding a Fire to a Mojo would give you Fires, Mojos and Fire Mojos. No leucistics. Here is a picture of a Double Lucy:

    As for a Cinnamon Fire x Cinnamon Fire, you could get normals, Cinnamons, Fires, Cinnamon Fires, Super Cinnamon Fires, Black-Eyed Lucy Cinnamons, or if you're really lucky, a Super Cinnamon Black Eyed Lucy ;)

    Who produced this animal? Its a super mojave, super fire?

    Justin
  • 06-23-2010, 08:12 AM
    abi21491
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    Who produced this animal? Its a super mojave, super fire?

    Justin

    I forget, honestly :oops: I think it is a Super Fire/Mojave but I could be wrong. I saw it up on the classifieds on Kingsnake a few months back.
  • 06-23-2010, 01:18 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    I believe it was a super sulfer involved
    I think Eric Sandoval was who produced the Black eye/Blue eye lucy
  • 06-23-2010, 01:38 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    how would you even know if you hit the combo for the double lucy?

    fire/butter x fire/butter=
    superfire white snake black eyes
    superbutter white snake blue eyes
    superfire superbutter white snake ?? eyes

    what would tell you that this white snake is super for both and not just a super butter / fire etc?
  • 06-23-2010, 02:30 PM
    carlo
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abi21491 View Post
    The "Double Leucistic" has been produced already, you would need a Fire Mojave (or other BEL producer) x Fire Mojave (again...) to make one. Breeding a Fire to a Mojo would give you Fires, Mojos and Fire Mojos. No leucistics. Here is a picture of a Double Lucy:

    http://wallflowerherps.weebly.com/up...9_orig.jpg?424

    As for a Cinnamon Fire x Cinnamon Fire, you could get normals, Cinnamons, Fires, Cinnamon Fires, Super Cinnamon Fires, Black-Eyed Lucy Cinnamons, or if you're really lucky, a Super Cinnamon Black Eyed Lucy ;)

    This animal almost looks like a snow with black eyes :O
  • 06-23-2010, 02:51 PM
    2kdime
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    So your just assuming thats what it is?

    Did you request permission to use the picture here and on your site?




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by abi21491 View Post
    I forget, honestly :oops: I think it is a Super Fire/Mojave but I could be wrong. I saw it up on the classifieds on Kingsnake a few months back.

  • 06-23-2010, 02:56 PM
    abi21491
    Re: black eyed x blue eyed leutistics
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    So your just assuming thats what it is?

    Did you request permission to use the picture here and on your site?

    The person was selling the animal as a Double Lucy. On my site it says specifically that I am not the owner of the pictures and that they are only there as examples :) I originally saved the picture just for my own records but eventually decided to build a page dedicated to listing all the morphs so other people could have access to the information. By that time the ad was gone :(
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