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Superbowl in New Jersey?

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  • 05-26-2010, 08:34 AM
    j_h_smith
    Superbowl in New Jersey?
    How can they allow the Superbowl to be played in New Jersey? Nothing against the area, but the Superbowl is as much for the fans as it is for the teams. What type of functions do you think they are going to be able to have in February in New Jersey? If you've ever been to a Superbowl, you know the fans get there at least a week early, party forever and then see a game in the comfortable confines of a domed stadium or at the very least, southern Florida or any other warm climate area. Imagine the game being played in 20 degree weather, some type of precipation falling and 70 thousand fans being extremely uncomfortable. What kind of half time show are they going to be able to pull off, if the weather is in the 20's?

    Then do you think that the quality of the game is going to be on par with a game being played in warmer weather? Nope, not gonna happen.

    I think this is the biggest bone head decision the NFL has made in years.

    Jim Smith
  • 05-26-2010, 09:59 AM
    Jerhart
    Re: Superbowl in New Jersey?
    Well...

    ..at least it will be one to remember.... :)
  • 05-26-2010, 11:04 AM
    kilabyte
    Re: Superbowl in New Jersey?
    Football is an outdoor sport made to be played in the cold rain & snow. Some of the greatest games where in bad weather including the ice bowl up in Green Bay. I'm sure they will be able to figure something out for the 10 minute half time show even if there is precip falling. As for the 2 weeks of entertainment before the game date. Well I'm sure the majority of that will be indoors across the metro NY area which has the most diverse amount of entertainment options available in the world. This Super Bowl needed to happen to stop becoming the same old game played indoors or in a town that has weather like a summer vacation where the excitement is going to the beach.
  • 05-26-2010, 06:24 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: Superbowl in New Jersey?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kilabyte View Post
    Football is an outdoor sport made to be played in the cold rain & snow. Some of the greatest games where in bad weather including the ice bowl up in Green Bay. I'm sure they will be able to figure something out for the 10 minute half time show even if there is precip falling. As for the 2 weeks of entertainment before the game date. Well I'm sure the majority of that will be indoors across the metro NY area which has the most diverse amount of entertainment options available in the world. This Super Bowl needed to happen to stop becoming the same old game played indoors or in a town that has weather like a summer vacation where the excitement is going to the beach.

    I would like you to list the number of great games that were played in bad weather. I'm sure there were some great plays within these games, but I don't think you can come up with more than a few great games. 60 minutes of good to great football during the superbowl in foul weather. Anyone can play in October, November and most of December, but we're talking about the middle of February. The Ice Bowl in Green Bay was not a great game, it had a few good plays. Some plays would have been made if played in a warmer climate too. Other than the players playing in a deep freezer, why would you say it was a great game?

    If there are "Superbowl" parties in New York, is that really a Super bowl festivity? No, it would be like me having a party for 200 people in Baltimore on the Friday before the Superbowl in Tampa. Yeah, it's a party, it's a party to celebrate the Superbowl, but it isn't a Superbowl Party.

    I will have to say I don't think the NFL needed this game in NY/NJ. What positive aspect can you say was will taqke place having the game in New Jersey? What's positive for the 70 thousand fans sitting on their hands freezing during the game, when they could be very comfortable in a domed stadium? Where is any of this positive for the game? Do you think you will actually see better football when it's played in the cold? Do the QB's have a better touch on the ball in the cold and possible bad weather? Do the wide receivers catch more balls in the snow or rain than in an indoor stadium?

    As for the best of the best, you will have better football when played in a climate controlled stadium. Do you really want the weather determine the outcome of the game or rather have the players play the best they can?

    I can keep going, but I will stop here. I know you have the right to believe what's best for football in your mind, but for me, you can't ever make me believe the NFL needed this game in NJ.

    Jim Smith
  • 05-26-2010, 07:13 PM
    kilabyte
    Re: Superbowl in New Jersey?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by j_h_smith View Post
    I would like you to list the number of great games that were played in bad weather. I'm sure there were some great plays within these games, but I don't think you can come up with more than a few great games. 60 minutes of good to great football during the superbowl in foul weather. Anyone can play in October, November and most of December, but we're talking about the middle of February. The Ice Bowl in Green Bay was not a great game, it had a few good plays. Some plays would have been made if played in a warmer climate too. Other than the players playing in a deep freezer, why would you say it was a great game?

    If there are "Superbowl" parties in New York, is that really a Super bowl festivity? No, it would be like me having a party for 200 people in Baltimore on the Friday before the Superbowl in Tampa. Yeah, it's a party, it's a party to celebrate the Superbowl, but it isn't a Superbowl Party.

    I will have to say I don't think the NFL needed this game in NY/NJ. What positive aspect can you say was will taqke place having the game in New Jersey? What's positive for the 70 thousand fans sitting on their hands freezing during the game, when they could be very comfortable in a domed stadium? Where is any of this positive for the game? Do you think you will actually see better football when it's played in the cold? Do the QB's have a better touch on the ball in the cold and possible bad weather? Do the wide receivers catch more balls in the snow or rain than in an indoor stadium?

    As for the best of the best, you will have better football when played in a climate controlled stadium. Do you really want the weather determine the outcome of the game or rather have the players play the best they can?

    I can keep going, but I will stop here. I know you have the right to believe what's best for football in your mind, but for me, you can't ever make me believe the NFL needed this game in NJ.

    Jim Smith

    Aside from New York being New York & having a million things happening for entertainment.Any area as long it was an outdoor cold venue is what is important. This is pretty much a 1st & the NFL thinking out of the box. I've been to an outdoor playoff games in single digit weather in December. It is a unique experience hudling under blankets with hot apple cider and rum. I also have skiied in 40 below weather as well. Some people like the cold. For me now at my age the best place to watch a football game warm weather or cold is in fron of my 60" plasma. Remember when weather is a factor both teams have to deal with it so it should not favor one team or the other. Here are some cold great playoff games:
    Dec. 31, 1967 Lambeau field -13 F Greenbay 21 Dallas 17
    Jan 10, 1952 Riverfront Stadium AFC Championship -9 F Bengals 27 SD 7
    Jan 4 1981 Cleveland Stadium -5 F Oakland 14 Cleveland 12 afc div playoff
    Jan 20, 2008 -4 F NFC Championship Giants 23 Green Bay 20 (OT)
    Jan 15, 1994 Rich Stadium 0 F AFC Div Playoff Buffalo 29 Raiders 23

    With that being said the last 5 years in New York during the super Bowl I think averaged 50 degrees.
  • 05-26-2010, 08:56 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: Superbowl in New Jersey?
    Some teams may have to play in harsh conditions to get to the superbowl anyway, so why give special treatment for the superbowl...I am sure 'they' wouldn't have trouble selling out the game.

    Would people complain if the NFC championship went thru Green Bay in January? Or what if the AFC Championship game went thru NYJ or NE?

    It's football...P.Manning got his first ring in pouring Rain in Tampa (I believe). I am sure those conditions weren't favorable for the fans/teams.

    The only svenerio I don't want to see...no pun intended...are the conditions experienced during the infamous 'Fog Bowl'.

    With the likelyhood I will be watching the game from my livingroom...I would at least like to SEE the game. Other than that...let it rain, snow, or shine.

    YouTube - The Fog Bowl
  • 05-27-2010, 12:47 AM
    Neal
    Re: Superbowl in New Jersey?
    It's not so much a big deal for the teams, as it is for the fans.

    A lot of fans aren't going to enjoy sitting in cold weather with a chance of rain/snow. I know I wouldn't buy tickets for that reason. I can deal with the cold, but rain/snow? No way. That means electronics = no.
  • 05-28-2010, 10:56 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: Superbowl in New Jersey?
    i love the fact that they are going to play a outdoor superbowl in the north. its been more like the southern football league or the dome footbal league when it came to the superbowl. teams play in the north why should their fans not have the chance to watch one in their home stadium? also every year teams have a 1 in 32 shot in playing the superbowl in their own stadium. for the northern teams that played outdoors this was never an option for them.

    football is an outdoor sport (yes i know my team plays in a dome) its a game that weather has always played a factor cold in green bay, heat in tempe, wind in chicago, snowballs being thrown at santa in philly:rofl: southern teams have always had the advantage now a northern team might have one.

    as for the fans green bay has sold out something like every game for the last 20 years no matter how cold, chicago sells out in dec, as does ny and seattle lets not even start to count how many college games are sold out in cold weather. there are more fans that want to see the superbowl in person than they could fit in every stadium in the country if they sat every seat twice.

    i think that they should rotate where the superbowl is around the entire league.
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