Help...Strange looking eggs! Pictures!

This is my first year breeding and this is my second clutch of the year. This clutch consisted of 6 eggs. They were laid on April 25th. I have a few questions about these eggs.

The two eggs that I am concerned with, and you will see in the pictures, were kicked out of the coil when I found her/them. The four plump, normal looking eggs were coiled.

The eggs could have been laid up to 24 hours before I found them.

My main concern is the seriously dimpled/caved and opaque-windowed eggs you will see in the pictures.

The two discolored/dimpled/caved in eggs DO have veins just like the normal looking ones. The eggs were dimpled like they are now when I found them. The 4 that were coiled have plumped up considerably since I put them in the incubator. The other two have not. However, they still have good looking veins like the rest as far as I can tell.

But the two eggs in question are going from mostly white, to having these large opaque areas on the shell as well. They just look discolored compared to most normal eggs I have seen, and compared to my other clutch.

My temps. are shown in the pictures. The 89.2 temp was being taken from the tub with the eggs in question.

It is definitely not low humidity...humidity around 90%.

Here are the pics....any info/advice/ideas?? Thanks in advance.

http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/...101_0905-1.jpg
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/...3/101_0912.jpg
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/...3/101_0907.jpg
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/...3/101_0909.jpg
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/...3/101_0910.jpg

They look like they are going bad. May be to wet or they may just be that the egg is dieing.. it happens..

It does seem pretty wet. Although I haven't got any eggs yet, my girl is being stubborn, so I'm not experienced yet, but too wet is just as big of a problem as too dry. I'm not sure what your substrate is, but you shouldn't be able to squeeze water out of it. It looks like you could, maybe you know? But like he said, they might just be bad eggs :(

P.S. the temps look fine..

They may just be bad eggs but that egg box looks way too wet to me...

I was under the impression that even 100% humidity was not too high? And my substrate was moist...but I could not squeeze any water out of it....I don't think...have incubated 100's of bearded dragon eggs with this same vermiculite/water mixture with great success. But maybe it is...if this is the case...what do you suggest? Just make up new tubs with less-moist vermiculite? The humidity stays around 90% within the entire incubator, not just in the tubs.

The condensation is because the temps are different inside the egg tub and outside the egg tub in the incubator. I would check your moisture content as suggested before and then put your incubator in a room that is warmer (closer but not over your "temp" 88-89) or a room that has less air movement.

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Originally Posted by BaierBalls

I was under the impression that even 100% humidity was not too high? And my substrate was moist...but I could not squeeze any water out of it....I don't think...have incubated 100's of bearded dragon eggs with this same vermiculite/water mixture with great success. But maybe it is...if this is the case...what do you suggest? Just make up new tubs with less-moist vermiculite? The humidity stays around 90% within the entire incubator, not just in the tubs.

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I measure it out. 5 parts vermuclite to 1 part water.

If you squeeze the vermiculite and get water out it's too wet. You're better off too dry then too wet in my opinion. You can recover from too dry but can't if they are too wet.

They look too wet to me. I had one last year that got a weird spot like the one on the right, and a spot like the one of the left (but not as big). I thought my substrate was fine too, but I added in a lot of dry substrate anyway and the eggs improved. I also moved some of the substrate away from my eggs so that more air could get around them.

Here's what mine looked like: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=95059