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  • 04-24-2010, 04:29 PM
    J.KNOX
    Super cinnalucy
    Does anyone know what a leucistic super cinnamon would look like
  • 04-24-2010, 04:37 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    Hmm. I would think it would just be a white snake. All a super cinnamon is a solid dark snake. Lucy genetics causes a lack of all pigment so I think it would just cancel out the super cinnamon's color. It would still carry the genetics for a super cinnamon but it would not display the color. Just my thoughts on it as I am no expert. :P
  • 04-24-2010, 05:33 PM
    J.KNOX
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    Thats what i thought i was hoping they cancel each other out and do something amazing but i guess not.
  • 04-24-2010, 05:38 PM
    bsash
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    Maybe it would be half and half? Nah, just kidding, I don't know, but I would try it just to see what would happen.
  • 04-24-2010, 11:15 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    If it were a Super Mojave BEL then there could be some coloration/pattern show through in the head and neck area. Other than that Leucism is a lack of pigmentation.
  • 04-25-2010, 10:20 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    If it were a Super Mojave BEL then there could be some coloration/pattern show through in the head and neck area. Other than that Leucism is a lack of pigmentation.

    Noone has really done any chemical testing on the genes of Ball Pythons to find out exactly what is going on with pimentation. However, based on the looks of morphs, and having a good understanding of their true coloration, one can deduce what is going on based on science done on other species. With all of that said, if the theories about Balls are correct, then theoretically it should be a predominantly white snake (maybe some very light shading, or light purples and gresy in some forms). Lastly, I wanted to make a correction to the above statement. Leucistic animals do not lack pigment. In fact all of the pigment is present, however, the chromataphores, cells in the skin that hold pigment either are not present, or are turned off. Therefore, the skin is white. Leucistics, however, do have colored eyes, due to the pigment being present. That is, once again, based on the theory that Lucy balls are actually Leucistic by definition.

    I hope I didn't confuse anyone too much,
  • 04-25-2010, 12:50 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muddoc View Post
    Noone has really done any chemical testing on the genes of Ball Pythons to find out exactly what is going on with pimentation. However, based on the looks of morphs, and having a good understanding of their true coloration, one can deduce what is going on based on science done on other species. With all of that said, if the theories about Balls are correct, then theoretically it should be a predominantly white snake (maybe some very light shading, or light purples and gresy in some forms). Lastly, I wanted to make a correction to the above statement. Leucistic animals do not lack pigment. In fact all of the pigment is present, however, the chromataphores, cells in the skin that hold pigment either are not present, or are turned off. Therefore, the skin is white. Leucistics, however, do have colored eyes, due to the pigment being present. That is, once again, based on the theory that Lucy balls are actually Leucistic by definition.

    I hope I didn't confuse anyone too much,

    I would love to find out what differs in the genes to cause the BEL and BlkEL why they are the same yet different eye color. We could all learn a great bit from a genetic study of the morphs and all ball pythons.
  • 04-25-2010, 04:21 PM
    RubbleUK
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    In answer to the OP's question:

    Weird?
    Crazy?
    Stunning?

    Whatever it looks like it would be a genetic power house, the Lesser/Butter Cinny is stunning as it is and that would be the least you get from breeding a Super Cinny BEL to anything (assuming it was a Lesser x Lesser or Butter BEL).

    Chris
  • 04-25-2010, 05:05 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Re: Super cinnalucy
    I have wondered the same thing. That would be a breeder I would want. You could breed it to anything and get amazing snakes every time. Imagine breeding it to any of the bee combos. Killer, lesser, honey etc.

    Amazing combos and lucies with almost every breeding. No normals ever. I would want it :)
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