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  • 03-29-2010, 09:53 PM
    Ara
    Panda pied
    looking for an all white BP then i saw the panda pied ball python and i fell in love! how can i get my hands on one of these beautiful snakes
  • 03-29-2010, 09:57 PM
    A.VinczeBPs
    Re: Panda pied
    I don't actually think there is any for sale, or if they are, extremely expensive.
    It's a super cinnamon piebald. There are other trying to make them I'm sure, but I don't see any being produced until a year or three from now, and when they are....again, you're looking at a very high price range.
  • 03-29-2010, 09:57 PM
    lesserlover
    Re: Panda pied
    Pay a whole lot of money or buy the ingredients. With a whole lot of good luck, you might luck up.

    Cinnamon Pastel/ Black Pastel and a piebald. Produce hets and breed them back together.
  • 03-29-2010, 09:58 PM
    Ara
    Re: Panda pied
    elaborate on a whole lot of money
  • 03-29-2010, 10:00 PM
    Ara
    Re: Panda pied
    what do the ingrediants do?? i have never bred before, ill be breeding her hopefully at the end of this year,(octoberish)
  • 03-29-2010, 10:02 PM
    FIEND_FO_LYFE
    Re: Panda pied
    alot of money = 10k+
  • 03-29-2010, 10:04 PM
    A.VinczeBPs
    Re: Panda pied
    A whole lot of money meaning more than a coral glow ($20,000) since their are none for sale, the price is not something I can guess at, but it's going to be more than you could probably afford.

    There are a lot of FAQ's on breeding, use google.
  • 03-29-2010, 10:38 PM
    mqbuchanan
    Re: Panda pied
    To my knowledge, only 1 has ever been produced. I believe it was by Outback, they hatched it and sold it to Ballroom South.

    Outback has a Super Black Pastel for sale right now:

    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...r+black+pastel

    That's a key ingredient. Breed that Super Black Pastel (homozygous for the co-dom Black Pastel gene) to a Pied (homozygous for the recessive piebald gene), and you produce some Black Pastel (co-dom) heterozygous for Piebald (1 pied gene carrier, visually normal or black pastel). Breed the black pastel het pieds together or to a pied, and I believe you have something like a 1/16 chance of producing a Panda Pied.

    For the Panda Pied, speaking in allele's, you've got:
    Spot 1: the Recessive Piebald Gene: 1 pied gene from each animal equals two pied genes and the visual phenotype.
    Spot 2: the co-dom Cinny gene: 1 cinny gene from each animal get's you to the super form, the super cinny, or super black pastel.

    Hope that helps, hope I am right!
  • 03-29-2010, 10:39 PM
    mqbuchanan
    Re: Panda pied
    Actually Outback sold their Super Black Pastel
  • 03-29-2010, 10:41 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: Panda pied
    From what I know, only one has been produced and it is very difficult to get this out of your clutch. Last time I saw the Panda Pied was selling for 18K-20K. Very expensive but beautiful. I wish it had more black than white though. Hopefully someone makes that hahaha.
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