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What is this ??

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  • 02-18-2010, 09:32 PM
    Jonnyb
    What is this ??
    picked up this male today , i just had to have him he looks so stunning and different im wondering what he is het for , sorry about the bad photos but in photo one hes next to a normal female ,

    if i had to guess i said reduce pattern and het caramel what are you're thoughts on him , thanks


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  • 02-18-2010, 09:35 PM
    boasandballs
    Re: What is this ??
    I hate it when they move when you take the pics. He looks like he doesn't have a head.

    Is he a vanilla?
  • 02-18-2010, 09:39 PM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: What is this ??
    No way that I know of to tell what he could possibly be het for. What I can see is that it is a very nice crisp pattern, and very cool looking coloring. Maybe a belly shot will help to tell if it is something more than a normal. Worst case is it's a very nice normal.
  • 02-18-2010, 09:41 PM
    kc261
    Re: What is this ??
    You picked him up today, and already put him in with a female? Please quarantine your new animals!

    If he is het for something recessive, you won't be able to tell. That is part of the definition of recessive.

    He is an attractive snake, though. Very light color and almost no alien eyes. I hope he proves out to be something for you.
  • 02-18-2010, 09:47 PM
    Jonnyb
    Re: What is this ??
    i got him from a respectable place i only got 5 snakes . and they all came from the same place ...

    i was told he might be double het for ghost ....

    so in order to find out probably nothing will pop out this year but i will have to breed the offspring back to him to find out correct ?
  • 02-18-2010, 10:00 PM
    rabernet
    Re: What is this ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonnyb View Post
    i got him from a respectable place i only got 5 snakes . and they all came from the same place ...

    i was told he might be double het for ghost ....

    so in order to find out probably nothing will pop out this year but i will have to breed the offspring back to him to find out correct ?

    Double het for ghost would be a ghost. What did the respectable place you got him from say he was?
  • 02-18-2010, 10:13 PM
    joepythons
    Re: What is this ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonnyb View Post
    i got him from a respectable place i only got 5 snakes . and they all came from the same place ...

    i was told he might be double het for ghost ....

    so in order to find out probably nothing will pop out this year but i will have to breed the offspring back to him to find out correct ?

    I am going to tell you something i was told in beggining of getting into snakes.I dont care if you got it from God himself QUARANTINE it! If this respectable breeder did not give you genetic papers showing what its het for then its probably a normal ball python ;).Sorry but you can not look at a snake and tell if its really het for anything.It is a nice looking snake though :gj:
  • 02-18-2010, 10:47 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: What is this ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonnyb View Post
    i got him from a respectable place i only got 5 snakes . and they all came from the same place ...

    i was told he might be double het for ghost ....

    so in order to find out probably nothing will pop out this year but i will have to breed the offspring back to him to find out correct ?

    Yes that is correct, but you will still only have a percentage of the hatchlings that will be het, so it's a hit or miss guess.

    And I think he meant that it might be a double het, which is what het for ghost is. (Het for Albino and Axanthic).

    You can never visually tell what an animals heterozygous genes are just by looking at it, though sometimes hets show unique traits, but they are not consistent enough to be counted on.

    Even if you got all the animals from the same place, quarantine is essential. Especially if you got them at separate times, one thing can pop up at a breeder later down the road.
  • 02-19-2010, 12:00 AM
    kc261
    Re: What is this ??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    And I think he meant that it might be a double het, which is what het for ghost is. (Het for Albino and Axanthic).

    Actually, that would be double het for snow.

    It is possible the breeder was referring to double het for true ghost, which is het for axanthic and het for hypo.
  • 02-19-2010, 12:43 AM
    Elise.m
    Re: What is this ??
    He's pretty! I love his color!

    Maybe try to get a head shot and a belly shot.
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