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  • 02-15-2010, 11:44 PM
    D&J Reptiles
    Warning to Everyone
    This is a warning to anyone that has been shopping the internet looking on "Kingsnake, craigslist, kijiji, or any other sites" A group out of South Africa has been posting some amazing deals, " Albino Pair 1000plus grams $300 " well they are scammers. They have a ton of post on trades and other deals and they seem pretty legit. I recently had a close friend come across one. The were wanting to sell a Pied male $500 He contacted them and talked over the phone. he paid via Walmart Money Gram. And as he recieved shipping information. There was a message stating that he needed to pay a insurance before the snake could be shipped. And the insurance is a $700 "refundable" money gram. so Now this unknown company is wanting to recieve another 700$ for a snake we have found to be some where in Africa. Well it was a scam. After searching the companys online there is a ton of post about this same situation but for all animals. "birds poodles snakes and so on" So this is just a warning that if you are contacting someone and they tell you " I just moved for work and i cant keep in my new apartment and I live in catramoon Africa then you could be following the same path as many others.

    Known contact name is Maria Haitinez pron.crackers4u44@hotmail.com
  • 02-15-2010, 11:48 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    Thanks for the heads up.

    If a deal is too good to be true, it probably is. Only buy from trusted sellers. Use the fauna BOI to find out about sellers before buying from them.

    Live and learn.
  • 02-15-2010, 11:49 PM
    steveboos
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    Thanks for the heads up, but hopefully one would be smart enough to know if something is too good to be true and run away from scams like that.
  • 02-15-2010, 11:50 PM
    unspecified42
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    When things look too good to be true, they usually are. $300 for a large albino pair of $500 for a pied should be sending up red flags. I've seen similar ads and just laughed.
  • 02-15-2010, 11:53 PM
    D&J Reptiles
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    See in my eyes they do throw up red flags but there is a ton of people new to the whole reptile life and when i first started I didnt know worth of such snakes i saw the pretty pictures and thought hmmm not a bad price.
  • 02-16-2010, 12:01 AM
    boasandballs
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    I talked to them about a leopard tort. I told them no thanks when I found out they were out of the USA.
  • 02-16-2010, 12:10 AM
    RockyTop
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    Honestly, I would pick reputable breeders to buy snakes from. Dozens of them are active members here. They all seem very knowledgeable and nice. I am sure any of them can help you locate what you are looking for. And if it is something theyr expect to produce, I know many breeders will hold snakes with a down payment etc. And I would be much more giving a down payment to a snake breeder that is active in the BP.net community.
  • 02-16-2010, 11:51 AM
    D&J Reptiles
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    Yeah at first the ads were coming out of dallas. So had no clue they were shipping from out of the US until he received shipping and it was from the IATA in Africa. So he had send money to someone out of texas. which doesn't throw up a red flag. And i do agree about buying from reputable breeders but there is a ton of breeders out there trying to get there name out. Most people that are not local to where i live hasn't heard of me but I have been breeding snakes since 97. So sometimes we give small time people a chance and trust them.
  • 02-16-2010, 12:12 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    They've been playing this scam for YEARS now. How's the saying go? If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

    If I can't phone up the breeder I'm working with, and I've never heard of them before, I'd run very quickly the other way.

    Usually the language of the ad is a dead giveaway. Sorry for your friend!

    Oh, and BTW, REPUTABLE breeders aren't selling their morphs on Craigslist.
  • 02-16-2010, 12:51 PM
    sho220
    Re: Warning to Everyone
    You'd have to be a complete tard to be taken by that ad. And running away from a breeder you've never heard of is a bit overly paranoid...they all had to start somewhere. How do you think these reputable breeders got their reputation? There are lots of small time hobby breeders (some you've probably never heard of) who sell quality animals for great prices because they don't have the big recognizable name, don't rely on the money for income, only deal locally therby limiting their customer base, etc...
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