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  • 02-04-2010, 10:34 AM
    Invincible
    SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    New guy here with a question

    I have a male SuperPastel Lessor and want to breed him with

    Clown,Pin,Mojo,Bee and a Cinny and i was told it would be a waste of time because the Lessor gene would and nothing to these.

    Is this the case?


    Thanks!
  • 02-04-2010, 10:37 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    MMM first of all welcome to the site we're glad you gound us.

    Second there aren't any gene's that I know of that when breed together don't effect each other in some way..

    Short answer they lied.
  • 02-04-2010, 11:12 AM
    cinderbird
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Invincible View Post
    New guy here with a question

    I have a male SuperPastel Lessor and want to breed him with

    Clown,Pin,Mojo,Bee and a Cinny and i was told it would be a waste of time because the Lessor gene would and nothing to these.

    Is this the case?


    Thanks!

    the person who told you this does not have their facts straight at all :/

    Super Pastel Lesser + clown = pastels, lesser pastels all 100% het clown! (take a look at the lesser clown, OMG PRETTY)

    Super Pastel Lesser + pin = pastels, pastel pins, pastel lessers, pastel pin lessers

    Super Pastel Lesser + mojo = pastels, pastel mojos, pastel lessers, pastel BELs

    Super Pastel Lesser + Bee = pastels, super pastels, super pastel spiders (killer bee), pastel lesser, bees, pastel lesser bee, super pastel lesser bee (i may be missing some here)

    Super Pastel Lesser + cinny = pastels, pastel lesser, , peweter

    you can create an amazing number of combos with that male. lets see some pics :D

    there may be a combo or two i left out, im listing these off the top of my head (no punnet squares this time) oh, and welcome to the site!
  • 02-04-2010, 08:40 PM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    the person who told you this does not have their facts straight at all :/

    Super Pastel Lesser + clown = pastels, lesser pastels all 100% het clown! (take a look at the lesser clown, OMG PRETTY)

    Super Pastel Lesser + pin = pastels, pastel pins, pastel lessers, pastel pin lessers

    Super Pastel Lesser + mojo = pastels, pastel mojos, pastel lessers, pastel BELs

    Super Pastel Lesser + Bee = pastels, super pastels, super pastel spiders (killer bee), pastel lesser, bees, pastel lesser bee, super pastel lesser bee (i may be missing some here)

    Super Pastel Lesser + cinny = pastels, pastel lesser, , peweter

    you can create an amazing number of combos with that male. lets see some pics :D

    there may be a combo or two i left out, im listing these off the top of my head (no punnet squares this time) oh, and welcome to the site!

    Looks like you did a good job, too bad it's a waste of time to breed a Super-Pastel-Lesser to any of these :weirdface Just for the record another one is Super-Pastel x Cinny can also get you a Sterling, one of my personal favs :gj:
  • 02-04-2010, 09:59 PM
    Maurice Tebele
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    the person who told you this does not have their facts straight at all :/

    Super Pastel Lesser + clown = pastels, lesser pastels all 100% het clown! (take a look at the lesser clown, OMG PRETTY)

    Super Pastel Lesser + pin = pastels, pastel pins, pastel lessers, pastel pin lessers

    Super Pastel Lesser + mojo = pastels, pastel mojos, pastel lessers, pastel BELs

    Super Pastel Lesser + Bee = pastels, super pastels, super pastel spiders (killer bee), pastel lesser, bees, pastel lesser bee, super pastel lesser bee (i may be missing some here)
    its not a pastel lesser, its a SUPER pastel lesser, he can hit super pastels to...
    Super Pastel Lesser + cinny = pastels, pastel lesser, , peweter

    you can create an amazing number of combos with that male. lets see some pics :D

    there may be a combo or two i left out, im listing these off the top of my head (no punnet squares this time) oh, and welcome to the site!

    you can also hit super pastels and super pastel mixes, it is a super pastel lesser not just a pastel lesser
  • 02-04-2010, 10:18 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Invincible, all those pairings would make killer offspring. If the lesser gene was passed on to any offspring, it would show up visually.
  • 02-04-2010, 10:23 PM
    kc261
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    Looks like you did a good job, too bad it's a waste of time to breed a Super-Pastel-Lesser to any of these :weirdface Just for the record another one is Super-Pastel x Cinny can also get you a Sterling, one of my personal favs :gj:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele View Post
    you can also hit super pastels and super pastel mixes, it is a super pastel lesser not just a pastel lesser

    Nope. These are both wrong. You can not get a super pastel, nor any combo that includes super pastel (sterling = super pastel + cinnamon) by breeding a super pastel lessor to any of the morphs listed above. None of those morphs include the pastel gene, and to get super pastel, the snake must get 1 pastel gene from each of its parents. The super pastel father can not pass super pastel to his offspring; just pastel.
  • 02-05-2010, 02:34 AM
    dr del
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Your kidding right? :weirdface

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    Looks like you did a good job, too bad it's a waste of time to breed a Super-Pastel-Lesser to any of these :weirdface Just for the record another one is Super-Pastel x Cinny can also get you a Sterling, one of my personal favs :gj:

    A male pastel lesser 100% clown that could be bred back to the clown female in the first year to produce clowns, pastel clowns, lesser clowns, pastel lesser clowns and pastel, normal and lesser 100% het clowns is hardly a waste of time. :confused:

    A pastel mojo x lesser BEL gives 4 possible morphs when bred to a normal female with a gaurantee of no normal offspring.

    What do you consider a worthy breeding for a super pastel lesser? :confused:


    dr del
  • 02-05-2010, 06:37 AM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Your kidding right? :weirdface



    A male pastel lesser 100% clown that could be bred back to the clown female in the first year to produce clowns, pastel clowns, lesser clowns, pastel lesser clowns and pastel, normal and lesser 100% het clowns is hardly a waste of time. :confused:

    A pastel mojo x lesser BEL gives 4 possible morphs when bred to a normal female with a gaurantee of no normal offspring.

    What do you consider a worthy breeding for a super pastel lesser? :confused:


    dr del

    I guess they don't have sarcasm in Scotland... of course it's worthy of breeding to anything. That's why it's so funny to me.
  • 02-05-2010, 06:42 AM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: SuperPastel Lessor Project ?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    Nope. These are both wrong. You can not get a super pastel, nor any combo that includes super pastel (sterling = super pastel + cinnamon) by breeding a super pastel lessor to any of the morphs listed above. None of those morphs include the pastel gene, and to get super pastel, the snake must get 1 pastel gene from each of its parents. The super pastel father can not pass super pastel to his offspring; just pastel.

    Sorry forgot super itself can't be passed directly.
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