What to start off with??

I want to get into breeding ball python's but I dont know what to buy first. I have been doing alot of reading, looking at pics and playing around with the genetics website.

I want to breed for bumble bee's and go from there. I dont know if I should start off with a female pastel then get a male spider a year later or just skip the spider and get a male bumble bee. Getting the spider will be cheaper and i will feel the accomplishment of making bees but then what to do with that male spider breeding wise.

I dont know what all I can do once I have a male bumble bee. Thinking of breeding male pastel to the female pastel for supers then doing super pastel to bumble bee.
What do you guys think?

I'm trying to get started without dropping alot of cash down on the snakes. If money was no problem then i'd get a male and female bumble bee but i can't drop that much at first ya know

This is just what I think...
If you really want a bumble bee to enjoy now, then hunt for a deal on a hatchling male. And you'll most likely be able to find a sub-adult or adult female pastel later on. If you really just want to breed the python, and you think it'd be exciting to create a bumble bee, then pick up a spider girl and hunt for your pastel male. I think having the pastel as the male makes options better and broader. :)

I personally am a big fan of spiders, but not too much into the bumble bee... a little too loud / busy coloring.

Totally agree with the above post. Want the morph now or want to experience producing it? :gj:

I started out wilh 1.1 pastel, and 0.2 spiders..... grew from there super pastel and bees were my hope starting up... im hoping to produce a super black pastel next season

I think getting a bumblebee right off the bat would save time and possible headaches if you don't hit the odds right. (which isn't hard, but it's possible.)

I think you'd spend as much money either way. Lets say you buy the two snakes. You have to feed the female for 2 years, feed the male for 1 year. Buying them shouldn't cost much, no more than $350 I'd assume. Actually you'd probly spend less buying the two snakes, but you'd distance yourself from breeding bumblebees.

Meh, I'll stick to saying it's personal preference.

i'd love the excitement of seeing the bee born from the pastel x spider.It's just what to get the pastel 1.0 or 0.1 and the same with the spider. I dont know what i'd do after having the bumblebee. Breed it to a pastel????

start with a pastel x spider. Its always fun to breed the snakes and see what you produce. You also will gain the proper knowledge and get a hang of breeding in no time.

i know i will be super happy to see a bumble bee come out that egg. Thats why I want to do the pastel x spider. I just dont know what sex I should get the pastel and spider as. I need to sit back take a breather and think about what I want to do with this breeding idea.

I dont know what I want to do after I get the bumble bee. I have alot of options with the bee in breeding terms. Maybe do super pastel's then a super pastel x bumble bee.

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Originally Posted by bman123

i know i will be super happy to see a bumble bee come out that egg. Thats why I want to do the pastel x spider. I just dont know what sex I should get the pastel and spider as. I need to sit back take a breather and think about what I want to do with this breeding idea.

I dont know what I want to do after I get the bumble bee. I have alot of options with the bee in breeding terms. Maybe do super pastel's then a super pastel x bumble bee.

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get a female pastel and male spider.
if you get a male bee from that the next year you can breed the bee back to the pastel and get killerbees