Super bummed out FRED KICK

Super bummed out-

Paid a deposit a while ago to Fred Kick for two pastel orange ghosts. He was very difficult to get a hold of and talk to and I put the deposit down without getting current weights and pics. Well a few weeks later I finally got the pics and the pair didn't match the pair pictured/advertised on kingsnake GRRRRR. So I told him I only wanted the male - and he is all like "you paid a deposit on the pair" and I'm like excuse me on the pair that doesn't exist!!! So then he said if I paid him an extra 150.00 on top of what he was selling the male for (would have been 450.00 additional to the deposit) I could just have the male. I agreed to that, then I did a search for Fred Kick and I found out that his shop got raided and a bunch of animals were taken away from him :( I emailed him again to tell him when he needed to ship and I never got a reply. So I filed a paypal dispute and got my money back but now I feel bad that the animal is going to be in filthy substandard conditions but at the same time I'm not trying to get my snakes sick either. I just feel really sad and crummy about the whole thing. :tears:

I'm glad that you were able to get your money back.

OYE bad situation!! You feel bad for the snakes...but yet don't want to make yours sick and loose your money. I totally get it.

I personally have never bought a snake or for that matter even considered a breeder without first doing my research on them. As well as asking other ppl about them. You were lucky that you were able to get your money back. But I totally get it about the poor snakes....I never want to see anything living in a bad situation. Hence I have to be careful or I would have a zoo....lol

Good thing you got your money back... Hopefully you're familiar with the BOI and BLBC, and of course BP.net has an Inquiry/Feedback section.

Did you happen to do a search on his name on the boi? I have not read this thread but the title says exactly what you say he did to you.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ght=fred+kicks

Moved to the Feedback section for you.

Glad you were able to get a refund - sucks things didn't work out :(

Agreed, I'm glad you got your money back too. I was afraid that when I opened this thread I was going to see that he scammed another person out of their money. :( for the snakes!

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Originally Posted by Royal Morphz

Did you happen to do a search on his name on the boi? I have not read this thread but the title says exactly what you say he did to you.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ght=fred+kicks

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Can't get it to pull up but no... I didn't do any research lesson learned!

Fred Kick is not the best guy, i bought some snakes off him that were good he said they were "proven breeders" But i can bet they are virgins because im haveing alot of problems with them not breeding. But then at a show my mom suppressed me by buying me a normal female at a show and he "garenteed"my mom she was ready to breed at 1450g, i got home and weighed her and she was about 1200g.
Yeah way to take advantage of my mom who knows nothing about snakes.
She winded up paying 50$ more for this "proven breeder" the a non proven same weight.
To make a long story short he made me some good sales, but taking advantage is enough for me to not buy from him anymore.

A friend of mine used to work at petsplus that mr.kick runs.. And a bunch if snakes got lose and or stolen in the time that he was working there and then he was blamed for it..mr.kick then sued my friend he's sueing him for over 1000.00 for something my friend has nothing to do isn't that rediculous ????

My friend has ben talking to the person responsible for initiating the raid on petsplus and they are trying to do something about that filthy totally illegal store.
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from an inside source we learned that Fred actually pays someone inside the SPCA to warn him when they are going to come in for a visit..and when ever they do they clean up everything double time, and he moves all of his animals that he dosnt have licenses for out of the shop. Several workers have said this and something will be done in the near future

I seriously advise anyone not to buy reptiles or cats and dogs from petsplus you will have problems with your animals