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  • 12-01-2009, 07:52 PM
    exiled reptile
    predetermaning sex of eggs
    does anyone know if temperature has any affect on the sex of brood like in crocodiles
  • 12-01-2009, 07:54 PM
    Nate
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    No - Temp has no affect on the sex of the snake.
  • 12-01-2009, 07:59 PM
    exiled reptile
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    thanx i was just wondering i really appreciate the quick response
  • 12-01-2009, 08:06 PM
    Nate
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    no problem. Welcome to the forum :)
  • 12-01-2009, 10:23 PM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    wow I never knew that temp affected the sex of crocs....that is interesting.
  • 12-01-2009, 10:39 PM
    crusher
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    im pretty sure it is also thought that the temperature also affected the sex of dinosaurs...
  • 12-01-2009, 10:49 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    It also effects the sex of Leopard Geckos.
  • 12-01-2009, 11:40 PM
    jason79
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    Some tortoises too I believe.
  • 12-01-2009, 11:46 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    Temperature sex determination is present in crocodilians, turtles, and lizards. I'm not sure it's been found in any snakes yet.

    As for dinosaurs, I think this is highly unlikely, as they were essentially birds, not reptiles, and as such, they most likely brooded their eggs, either warming them with their bodies, or with rotting vegetation the way Australian scrub fowl do. Their growth rates suggest they were warm-blooded, or semi-warm-blooded the way primitive mammals (such as hedgehogs) are.

    Crocodilians may also control the temperature of their nest, but their growth rate is slower than that of the dinosaurs. Dinos have more in common with birds (including some feathers). It would be more accurate to say that birds are dinosaurs, and should be reclassified as such. (Class Dinosauria, not Class Aves).
  • 12-02-2009, 01:15 AM
    Matt K
    Re: predetermaning sex of eggs
    I think a lot of Ball breeders wish that Balls exhibited temperature dependent sex determination, haha. I suppose the variability keeps things interesting though, and adds another level of excitement. Getting males where you need them and females where you need them both by chance...well that equals pure satisfaction :P.

    To the original poster--all snakes have sex chromosomes, and thus none of them rely on temperature dependent sex determination. Things like crocs and most turtles lack sex chromosomes, and thus it is the temperature of incubation that determines the sex. Not ALL reptiles that lack sex chromosomes display temperature dependent sex determination, but a bunch certainly do. It's very cool stuff, haha.

    Cheers,
    -Matt
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