For those of you that dont do temp drops

If you are not using a temp drop to get the snakes into breeding mode what steps are you taking to ensure that they are ready? Is a basic shortened night/day cycle enough just using the natural shorter periods of daylightin winter and fall?

Thinking about trying it out this year without dropping temps but not sure how to get em in the mood. Was gonna just start putting the males in for the 3 day rotation schedule but not sure if im missing something

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Originally Posted by bones93

If you are not using a temp drop to get the snakes into breeding mode what steps are you taking to ensure that they are ready? Is a basic shortened night/day cycle enough just using the natural shorter periods of daylightin winter and fall?

Thinking about trying it out this year without dropping temps but not sure how to get em in the mood. Was gonna just start putting the males in for the 3 day rotation schedule but not sure if im missing something

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Last year I did not drop temps, just watch your females they will go to the cool end of the tub hang around the water bowl. Thats when I threw the male in ended up pretty well 3/3 females laid for me. :salute:

Last season I did not drop temperatures. I keep my racks in a room with windows so the natural shortening of the daylight may have played a role. Other than that, I didn't do anything else. I got a clutch of 6 eggs but unfortunately that whole clutch was just bad luck.

Also the ambient temperature probably went down in the snake room. I've noticed the house is starting to get cooler at night so that might also be playing a role. I don't intentionally cool or manipulate light cycles though.

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Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny

Last season I did not drop temperatures. I keep my racks in a room with windows so the natural shortening of the daylight may have played a role. Other than that, I didn't do anything else. I got a clutch of 6 eggs but unfortunately that whole clutch was just bad luck.

Also the ambient temperature probably went down in the snake room. I've noticed the house is starting to get cooler at night so that might also be playing a role. I don't intentionally cool or manipulate light cycles though.

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Many good points, the entire house will cool down so that could play a roll. I did notice when breeding last year that a weather front really helped the locks.

I definitely paid attention to the weather. If a storm was coming in or it rained, I put the two together. Must have worked because I got a clutch. I'm just waiting for my female to go through a shed and then I'm going to start pairing them up again and paying close attention to any weather changes. The temperature in the house drops several degrees in the winter and a little more at night so I have no need to intentionally drop temps in the racks.

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Originally Posted by Drew87

Many good points, the entire house will cool down so that could play a roll. I did notice when breeding last year that a weather front really helped the locks.

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Have to agree with the weather watching...a low pressure front pretty much guarantees action...:D

Im gonna give it a shot this year like that. My big female pastel has actually been on the cool side the past few days and hugging the water bowl. Cant hurt to give it a shot. I think next week im gonna let my male pin go to work and see what happpens....Cmon lemon blast! LOL

I'm not cooling this year, and I'm already getting lots of locks. I use natural light through the window, rather than artificial lighting, so they are getting shortening days.

Third season breeding, I've never cooled, and this season I've had locks every time I've paired. I do pay attention to the females and how they are behaving, as well as watching for weather systems. However, I've paired without weather fronts coming in this season and they're still locking. This has been a wetter fall here in Georgia, and I do feel that also contributes. My first year breeding we were having a drought and many breeders in the drought area were experiencing fewer locks that season.

I'm not breeding this season, but last year I never dropped temps, and just used natural lighting from the windows. My BP's are also in my room so the bedroom light would be on for extra hours as well. I still got a clutch of 6 eggs, all went full term and I had perfect odds with a pastel x normal pairing. They will go when they are ready. I did the 3 days in, 3 days out method until February until my female ovulated.