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  • 11-07-2009, 10:15 PM
    Codejunky
    Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Basically the opposite of a leucistic ball python.

    Albinism refers only to the reduction in melanin, where as Leucism refers to the reduction in all types of pigmentation.

    Melanism refers to the increase in melanin, resulting in much darker pigmentation.

    Following that thought..

    Abundism refers to excessive amount of dark pigmentation.


    Has anyone attempted or managed to breed an all-black ball python?

    Is it at all possible?
  • 11-07-2009, 10:23 PM
    Matt K
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Super Cinnamons and Super Black Pastels are both all black. A Cinnamon Black Pastel will also be a black animal.

    Cheers,
    -Matt
  • 11-07-2009, 10:25 PM
    T&C Exotics
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    When I read this post I though more along the lines of 100% black like the belly as well. So as to that I think it may be possible but as far as I know no one has done this yet.
  • 11-07-2009, 10:44 PM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Look a My ICON or here's a bigger pic:

    http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9.../IMG_4584a.jpg

    Her belly & ringer mark are both white though.
  • 11-07-2009, 10:47 PM
    Oxylepy
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Aside from the belly the super IanG line Black Pastels tend to be completely one shade (aka no splotching and very rich in their darkness) black.
  • 11-07-2009, 11:04 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tattlife2001 View Post
    When I read this post I though more along the lines of 100% black like the belly as well. So as to that I think it may be possible but as far as I know no one has done this yet.

    I no not think that there is any ball morphs that Belly color changes compleatly to one color other than whats there naturally.
  • 11-08-2009, 01:21 AM
    Hypnotic Exotic
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NorthernRegius View Post
    Look a My ICON or here's a bigger pic:

    http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9.../IMG_4584a.jpg

    Her belly & ringer mark are both white though.

    Deb, Christmas is coming so when should I expect that snake to arrive? :D
  • 11-08-2009, 11:58 AM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NorthernRegius View Post
    Look a My ICON or here's a bigger pic:

    http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9.../IMG_4584a.jpg

    Her belly & ringer mark are both white though.

    not to be a dork....but is she a black cinni or a super black pastel. I have never seen one like this in person. Beautiful snake....I love the iridescent coloring and the white around her mouth...so cool.
  • 11-09-2009, 01:30 PM
    Mike Schultz
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Best bet is to try for a super black pastel- while not completely black they are "blacker" than super cinnamons at least.
  • 11-09-2009, 07:04 PM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: Is it possible to get a completely black ball python?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hypnotic Exotic View Post
    Deb, Christmas is coming so when should I expect that snake to arrive? :D

    She is for sale, listed on my Web-site. ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPelizabeth View Post
    not to be a dork....but is she a black cinni or a super black pastel. I have never seen one like this in person. Beautiful snake....I love the iridescent coloring and the white around her mouth...so cool.

    She's a Super BLACK

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike@OutbackReptiles View Post
    Best bet is to try for a super black pastel- while not completely black they are "blacker" than super cinnamons at least.

    I totally agree & here's another coupl of pic of my girl- she is really quite dark!

    http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...s/IMG_4579.jpg

    http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...s/IMG_4587.jpg
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