Caramels - Are they worth purchasing?

I'd like to get everybody's thoughts on Caramels. We all know the kinking issues but I saw on another thread that a lot of clutches aren't viable either. Are these worth working with or are there too many problems with them?

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic Exotic

I'd like to get everybody's thoughts on Caramels. We all know the kinking issues but I saw on another thread that a lot of clutches aren't viable either. Are these worth working with or are there too many problems with them?

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Buy a Crider AKA Ultramel. They are a different line of caramels and they dont have kinking problems. If i had the money i would definetly get one.

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Originally Posted by Pulcher

Buy a Crider AKA Ultramel. They are a different line of caramels and they dont have kinking problems. If i had the money i would definetly get one.

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And they blow away regular caramels in the looks department as well.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

And they blow away regular caramels in the looks department as well.

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Unfortunately, they also blow away regular caramels in PRICE:O:D

If Ultramels continue to show no signs of kinking or other problems, I think they will end up phasing out and replacing caramels.
Better looking + no defects= win.

i have a caramel male and het female both adults, and are proven breeders. both clutches they have produced have had babies with no kinks or defects at all. the secret is to out cross them. my male is from brian sharp which is a bell line.the het female was produced by 8ball pythons and is a nerd line, plus we incubate them a little drier medium tghan you would normally use. my male caramel has a slight kink,at the very tip of his tail but produces perfect kink free babies

There was a thread not long ago asking to see Caramel females on eggs. There have been a ton of male caramel X female het caramel pairings with lots of caramel babies. The question is the fertility rate on caramel females.

Is there a fertility problem with female caramels (no eggs, fewer eggs, bad eggs) ??

Does it get better if combined with another gene (Caramel Glow, Spider Caramel, etc) ??

I did hear on another thread that BHB's line doesn't have kinking issues but have not verified that. On the crossing of lines, NERD's book seemed to indicate there might be compatibility issues with different lines much like the axanthics. Has there been any evidence supporting that?

Are caramels worth purchasing? Only if you like amazing look animals and hot crosses.

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Originally Posted by pavlovk1025

Are caramels worth purchasing? Only if you like amazing look animals and hot crosses.

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Nothing beats a Caramel Glow. :gj:

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