question about BEL combos

Sorry if this has already been asked or the answer is somewhere very obvious and I've just missed it.. :oops:

Ok so, Blue Eyed Leucistic... According to the NERD morph page, the BEL is a super form of all of these Co-Dom morphs:
Butter
Lesser Platinum
Mojave
Phantom
Russo Het Leucistic

So Butter x Butter = BEL; Lesser x Lesser = BEL; Mojave x Mojave = BEL, Phantom x Phantom = BEL; and Russo x Russo = BEL. So far so good, right?

Ok, but will breeding one of these Co-Doms to another one of these Co-Doms also produce BEL? For example, Butter x Lesser or Lesser x Mojave or Phantom x Butter? Will it work for all of them, some of them, none of them?

Say I have two Super Mojaves (BELs). If I bred them together, would there be a chance of getting one of the other het BEL morphs? Or only if I had BELs made up of the other het BELs (Lesser x Mojave BEL or a Lesser BEL x Mojave BEL, for example, producing Lessers, Mojaves, and BELs)?

Hope this is all worded in such a way that it makes sense.

Different Het for BEL even if they are different morphs will make a BEL. But keep in mind that each BEL looks slightly different than the other ones deppending on which morphs is composed of.

And no say a Mojave X Mojave BEL will not give Fire offsprings. It will only give offsprings of whatever morph is composed of.

Hope that helps and doesnt sound too confusing. :O

I think I've got it now, thanks! :)

Also from my understanding the "Whitest" of them all is the lesser x lesser.


Not to jack the thread but... I know mojo x mojo will give you a bel with a grey head but what about lesser x mojo?

No only the mojo to mojo gives a gray head

And Phantom X Phantom does not create a Blue eyed white snake. It produces a snake that looks kind of purplish grey. All of the morphs you listed are what's known as Alleles. In other words they're different mutations affecting the same gene. Each mutation will affect that gene in slightly different ways which is why you have different intensities of color and variable patterns. Every gene unless it's in an egg or sperm cell is paired so you can only have a maximum of two forms of mutation per gene.

Some of these alleles have been named, though I think some of them are the same thing as other named varieties. For instance I personally believe that Lesser and Butter are the same thing and I believe that Mystic and Phantom are the same thing, though obviously lesser and phantom are quite different from each other. Some of the varieties that I think are different from each other are 'Russo', 'lesser', 'mojave', 'phantom', 'special' just to name five. All of these are mutations that affect a gene that affects color in ball pythons.

You can mix and match all of these mutations together along with the 'normal' version of the gene, but only two can be present at any one time in that gene and depending on what is in the mix, you'll get different results from the brightest of whites to an animal that looks almost normal (IE: one copy of the Phantom mutation and one copy of the normal version of the gene will produce a Phantom ball which looks nearly normal but not quite) Mixing together two of the mutations can give you a snake anywhere from bright white (lesser X lesser) to purplish grey (Phantom X Phantom) to something in the middle with different tones and intensities of color (Mojave X Special)

Hope this helps (and makes sense) :rolleye2: