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  • 09-17-2009, 12:21 AM
    gsarchie
    Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    I keep finding conflicting information so someone help me clear this up. I know that a pastel is a pastel and a cinny is a cinny, and that a super pastel is a super pastel, and a super cinny is a super cinny. I also know that a cinny pastel is a pewter pastel and that a super pastel cinny is a sterling pastel. I get confused on the super cinny pastels and the super cinny super pastels. Is the former a silver streak and the latter a silver bullet? Any clarification would be super. Also, just verify the first ones as well to make sure that I'm not crazy please.
  • 09-17-2009, 12:28 AM
    bobbittle
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gsarchie View Post
    I keep finding conflicting information so someone help me clear this up. I know that a pastel is a pastel and a cinny is a cinny, and that a super pastel is a super pastel, and a super cinny is a super cinny. I also know that a cinny pastel is a pewter pastel and that a super pastel cinny is a sterling pastel. I get confused on the super cinny pastels and the super cinny super pastels. Is the former a silver streak and the latter a silver bullet? Any clarification would be super. Also, just verify the first ones as well to make sure that I'm not crazy please.

    Cin/Pastel - Pewter Pastel
    Super Cin/Pastel - Silver Bullet
    Cin/Super Pastel - Sterling

    Silver Streak gets a little complicated but involves Black Pastels.
  • 09-17-2009, 12:53 AM
    bobbittle
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Super Cin/Super Pastel - Super Pewter

    Took a little searching. :D
  • 09-18-2009, 07:45 PM
    Fearless
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbittle View Post
    Super Cin/Super Pastel - Super Pewter

    Took a little searching. :D

    I have never heard it called that before,

    I can never remember the names and throw the fact that if they are made with black pastels they have different names... its just to much to try retaining.
  • 09-18-2009, 07:51 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Cinnamon = Cinnamon
    Pastel = Pastel
    Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
    Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
    Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak
    Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Sterling
  • 09-18-2009, 08:02 PM
    bobbittle
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    Cinnamon = Cinnamon
    Pastel = Pastel
    Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
    Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
    Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak
    Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Sterling

    Silver Steak is produced via Black Pastels, NOT cinnamons.

    Here's a Super Pewter:

    http://www.vpi.com/brag/super_pewter...compareson_pic
  • 09-18-2009, 08:27 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    Cinnamon = Cinnamon
    Pastel = Pastel
    Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
    Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
    Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak
    Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Sterling

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bobbittle View Post
    Silver Steak is produced via Black Pastels, NOT cinnamons.

    Okay I was off a bit....

    Cinnamon = Cinnamon
    Pastel = Pastel
    Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
    Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Sterling
    Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
    Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak

    I mixed a few up, but according to NERD these are the names. :gj:
  • 09-18-2009, 08:41 PM
    dreese88
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    Okay I was off a bit....

    Cinnamon = Cinnamon
    Pastel = Pastel
    Pastel x Cinnamon = Pewter
    Super Pastel x Cinnamon = Sterling
    Super Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet
    Pastel x Super Cinnamon = Silver Streak

    I mixed a few up, but according to NERD these are the names. :gj:

    Super Pastel Super Cinny is Super Pewter
    Pastel Super Cinny is Silver Bullet

    Link to Silver Bullet page on Albey's site.
    Silver Bullet

    Link to Super Pewter
    Super Pewter

    *EDIT* Just checked my copy of the complete ball python and it does call the Super Cinny Super Pastel a silver bullet, but I think everyone else is calling it the Super Pewter and the Super Cinny Pastel the Silver Bullet...Maybe someone with a little bit more knowledge will be able to shed some light on the situation. HTH
  • 09-18-2009, 09:32 PM
    LGL
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Kevin mislabled the Silver Bullet (Pastel Super Cinnamon) as the double super.

    Pastel - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...tel_jungle.htm
    Cinnamon - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/collection/cinnamon.htm

    Super Pastel - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
    Super Cinnamon - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...on-pastel.html

    Pastel Cinnamon = Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/pewterbig.jpg
    Super Pastel Cinnamon = Sterling - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1178477304.jpg
    Pastel Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm
    Super Pastel Super Cinnamon = Super Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/superpewter.htm

    There are some great pictures in Greg Graziani's 2007 gallery: http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...hoto%20Gallary

    Also:

    Black Pastel - Allelic to Cinnamon and produces similar looking combos, although they do differ slightly
    Pastel Black Pastel = Black Pewter
    Super Pastel Black Pastel = Silver Streak
    Pastel Super Black Pastel = Silver Bullet
    Super Pastel Super Black Pastel - I'm not sure it's been produced. It'll most likely be called something along the lines of "Super Pewter" or "Super Black Pewter".
  • 09-18-2009, 09:51 PM
    dreese88
    Re: Cinny/Pastel Combos (talk about a huge number of possible morphs)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LGL View Post
    Kevin mislabled the Silver Bullet (Pastel Super Cinnamon) as the double super.

    Pastel - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...tel_jungle.htm
    Cinnamon - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/collection/cinnamon.htm

    Super Pastel - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html
    Super Cinnamon - http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...on-pastel.html

    Pastel Cinnamon = Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/pewterbig.jpg
    Super Pastel Cinnamon = Sterling - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1178477304.jpg
    Pastel Super Cinnamon = Silver Bullet - http://www.grazianireptiles.com/coll...ver_bullet.htm
    Super Pastel Super Cinnamon = Super Pewter - http://www.boabasement.com/superpewter.htm

    There are some great pictures in Greg Graziani's 2007 gallery: http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...hoto%20Gallary

    Also:

    Black Pastel - Allelic to Cinnamon and produces similar looking combos, although they do differ slightly
    Pastel Black Pastel = Black Pewter
    Super Pastel Black Pastel = Silver Streak
    Pastel Super Black Pastel = Silver Bullet
    Super Pastel Super Black Pastel - I'm not sure it's been produced. It'll most likely be called something along the lines of "Super Pewter" or "Super Black Pewter".

    I thought that was right. Thanks:gj::snake:
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