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Future Bumble Bee price?

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  • 08-31-2009, 12:00 PM
    DemmBalls
    Future Bumble Bee price?
    Where do you all see the price of Bees going in the next few years? They seem to be more available and the recipe is pretty simple. That being said...I would assume the price will fall? I'd love to hear your views!

    Thanks,
  • 08-31-2009, 12:04 PM
    RhacHead
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by demjor19 View Post
    Where do you all see the price of Bees going in the next few years? They seem to be more available and the recipe is pretty simple. That being said...I would assume the price will fall? I'd love to hear your views!

    Thanks,

    The Price is allready falling! Yesterday on KS I saw bees for $550shipped,the same time last year it was $1000+
  • 08-31-2009, 12:31 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    I haven't always thought this way but a good friend put it in perspective when he said "at the end of the day we're only selling snakes with paint jobs".

    I look at it like this every breeder should price their animals based on what they think they are worth.. If breeder a produce crappy brown spotty bee's and thinks they are only worth 550.00 shipped that's their right and their more than likely right their only worth 550.00 and that's what their happy getting for them more power to them. But if a breeder produces nice bright clean spotless bees that hold their color and they think they are worth 550.00 still that is also their right. We are getting to the point where a breeder that takes great care in selective breeding can demand a higher price for their animals than on that really doesn't care they just want to produce bees and so they throw any ole Pastel and spider together. Like another friend said "I wouldn't pay 550.00 and expect a 1000.00 paint job any more than I would be happy paying 1000.00 and getting a 550.00 one either".

    Yes Bees are easy to get but great Bees not so much. Think to yourself when it gets to be 1500+ grams and 5 years old will I still BEE proud to show it off or will it be "yeah that's just a bee" This goes for any morph base of combo. Are you buying the gene or are you buying the quality.
  • 08-31-2009, 12:46 PM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    I haven't always thought this way but a good friend put it in perspective when he said "at the end of the day we're only selling snakes with paint jobs".

    I look at it like this every breeder should price their animals based on what they think they are worth.. If breeder a produce crappy brown spotty bee's and thinks they are only worth 550.00 shipped that's their right and their more than likely right their only worth 550.00 and that's what their happy getting for them more power to them. But if a breeder produces nice bright clean spotless bees that hold their color and they think they are worth 550.00 still that is also their right. We are getting to the point where a breeder that takes great care in selective breeding can demand a higher price for their animals than on that really doesn't care they just want to produce bees and so they throw any ole Pastel and spider together. Like another friend said "I wouldn't pay 550.00 and expect a 1000.00 paint job any more than I would be happy paying 1000.00 and getting a 550.00 one either".

    Yes Bees are easy to get but great Bees not so much. Think to yourself when it gets to be 1500+ grams and 5 years old will I still BEE proud to show it off or will it be "yeah that's just a bee" This goes for any morph base of combo. Are you buying the gene or are you buying the quality.


    There should be an "agree" button next to the "thanks" button ... ;)

    I said it in another thread, but I will say it again -- I definitely think that in the future, as these "average" morphs become more and more common and available, it'll be the quality of the individual animal that counts, possibly even moreso than the morph.

    Might seem weird now to think of a pastel that's more expensive than a bee ... But imagine if that pastel was yellower, and more vibrant, than the bee was.
  • 08-31-2009, 12:56 PM
    DemmBalls
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    I haven't always thought this way but a good friend put it in perspective when he said "at the end of the day we're only selling snakes with paint jobs".

    I look at it like this every breeder should price their animals based on what they think they are worth.. If breeder a produce crappy brown spotty bee's and thinks they are only worth 550.00 shipped that's their right and their more than likely right their only worth 550.00 and that's what their happy getting for them more power to them. But if a breeder produces nice bright clean spotless bees that hold their color and they think they are worth 550.00 still that is also their right. We are getting to the point where a breeder that takes great care in selective breeding can demand a higher price for their animals than on that really doesn't care they just want to produce bees and so they throw any ole Pastel and spider together. Like another friend said "I wouldn't pay 550.00 and expect a 1000.00 paint job any more than I would be happy paying 1000.00 and getting a 550.00 one either".

    Yes Bees are easy to get but great Bees not so much. Think to yourself when it gets to be 1500+ grams and 5 years old will I still BEE proud to show it off or will it be "yeah that's just a bee" This goes for any morph base of combo. Are you buying the gene or are you buying the quality.

    This actually makes alot of sense! So your saying...Bees may become a dime a dozen...but High quality Bees may still be pretty rare?
  • 08-31-2009, 01:00 PM
    Askook
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    I have a very nice female on hold for $600.
  • 08-31-2009, 01:43 PM
    Dave763
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    I've said it before....morph prices are a race to the bottom. When I got my first albino female they were at 1500...now around 500.
    My spider male cost 800...now they go for 150 to 200.
    Bees are easy to make. Spiders and pastels are a dime a dozen. Expect the prices to fall a lot more.
    $400 by next summer.
  • 08-31-2009, 02:00 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    I expect the prices to really drop because the recipe is cheap and relatively easy to make. Eventually you will just be paying for the time it takes to breed. I see it dropping to $400 maybe $350, but I don't think it will go much lower than that because they carry two base morphs.
  • 08-31-2009, 02:00 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by demjor19 View Post
    This actually makes alot of sense! So your saying...Bees may become a dime a dozen...but High quality Bees may still be pretty rare?

    Yep you can get a bee or you can get a BEE!!!.. it just means that people that bid their time and focus on producing the best animals they can will still be getting double what everyone else is for a Bee even in 5 years. Bee's may be 250.00 (God forbid) but high quality Bees will still command a higher price. Once price is no longer a bargaining factor then quality is the main focus.
  • 08-31-2009, 02:43 PM
    DVS1
    Re: Future Bumble Bee price?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Yep you can get a bee or you can get a BEE!!!.. it just means that people that bid their time and focus on producing the best animals they can will still be getting double what everyone else is for a Bee even in 5 years. Bee's may be 250.00 (God forbid) but high quality Bees will still command a higher price. Once price is no longer a bargaining factor then quality is the main focus.

    As with any animal, quality will bring a better price. Unfortunately there will be lots of lower quality stuff to pick from.
    I have seen some really poor examples of bees lately.
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