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Possible double hets??

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  • 08-25-2009, 07:40 AM
    Lolo76
    Possible double hets??
    I was just reading some classifieds, and saw an ad for "Possible double hets for albino and orange ghost." I've seen other double hets advertised in the past, and was hoping somebody could explain this to me. Does it mean one parent is albino (for example) and one is orange ghost - and does that make them 100% for one, both, and/or neither of the genes? Just wondering how this works, and whether I'd be taking a chance at simply getting a normal. :cool: On the other hand, if there's at least one morph gene guaranteed, it seems like a neat project. Finally, what would you mate a "Possible double het albino/o.g." with to prove it out?

    P.S. This particular ad was asking $250 for a 2.2 clutch, or $50/male & $100/female... haven't contacted them for details.
  • 08-25-2009, 07:51 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Possible double hets??
    Yes a double het animal is from a two different simple recessive homozygous animals bred together. A possible double het could have come from normals bred toether; for example, if someone bred two possible hets together and both were actually normals. A possible double het could have the product of two hets bred together. I personally wouldn’t buy possible het anything, but there are a lot of other breeders that will. If I am going to spend my money on a genetic animal, I want to be sure that my animal is genetic. It does cost more, but always pays off I the end.
  • 08-25-2009, 08:00 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: Possible double hets??
    Thanks for explaining! I thought it seemed too "possible," if you know what I mean... :D I'm hoping to get a pair of 100% hets soon - either albino, clown or orange ghost.
  • 08-25-2009, 10:42 AM
    NorthernRegius
    Re: Possible double hets??
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lolo76 View Post
    Thanks for explaining! I thought it seemed too "possible," if you know what I mean... :D I'm hoping to get a pair of 100% hets soon - either albino, clown or orange ghost.

    Possie hets are usually from het parents, where the animals' offspring are normal looking & you don't know which ones are carrying the trait. If the parents of double het offspring are homozygous (visual) for the recessive trait they are NOT possie hets they ARE hets. Hope this helps.
  • 08-25-2009, 02:59 PM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Possible double hets??
    First you have to decide if the possible double homozygous is something you want to go for. Albino and ghost is a subtle combo as albino removes all the black pigment and ghost some of it so I'm not sure how easy it would be to tell if an albino was also ghost.

    Then you have to look at if you trust the seller to be representing the animals honestly. The BOI is a good start.

    If you really want to go for a double homozygous at least with possible hets you have a chance of getting there quicker than with 100% hets for only one of the mutations. For example, if you settle for a pair of 100% albinos you can be almost 100% sure you will NOT produce an albino ghost with them.

    In some cases you might not be paying any extra for possible het genetics so if the alternative was no shot at that gene then you at least have the chance for it to pay off. But of course you have to look at the cost of raising up the animals so if you can afford the extra for 100% double hets from a reliable source that is the way to go. I've seen some very reasonable priced male 100% double hets recently so you could nail at least one side down that way.

    FYI it would also be possible to produce possible double hets from a 100% double het. Like if you bought a known double het albino pied male and bred him to normal or het/possible het albino or het/possible het pied girls.
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