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Frozen feeder lizards??

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  • 10-07-2019, 11:55 PM
    damein
    Frozen feeder lizards??
    So I'm looking into getting Asian Vine snakes. I'm no stranger to a variety of snake species. I work with everything from a normal ball python to Louisiana pine snakes. I have indigo's and corn snakes, rosy boas and house snakes. I'm basically on every Spectrum left and right lol
    But everything I own is a mouse or bird eater. I've never delt with a straight lizard eater before. Feeder lizards are not going to be easy for me to purchase locally. I started to read that a lot of Asian Vine snakes have parasite issues from being caught in the wild.
    I started to read more and found out that there's a big problem with feeder lizards caring mass of parasites loads that also taint captive-born specimens.
    Well looking into it, I couldn't really find an answer to this. Why are there no Frozen lizards available as a food source?
    In my mind, Frozen thawed would kill any parasite load and make it safe for the snake, Thus eradicating this massive parasite problem that we're dealing with in these species.
    I've never personally tried to defrost a lizard and feed it off. Is there reason that no one else is trying? Do they not thaw well? Is there some little common knowledge about it that I've been kept out of the loop with?
    Any insight is appreciated! Thank you so much!
  • 10-08-2019, 12:36 AM
    Bogertophis
    Not sure where you're located but found these:
    https://undergroundreptiles.com/prod...egory/feeders/
    https://www.lllreptile.com/products/...-anole-lizards

    Not as many sources of feeder lizards because not as much demand, including at my house. I've kept a TX longnose snake (a lizard feeder by nature) for many years
    now, but happily she eats f/t fuzzy mice. I know of no issues with f/t lizards off-hand. Maybe others will chime in here with practical experience...

    I think there many be other sources of feeder lizards, btw...I am not endorsing the above companies, I've not ordered from them (I raise my own rodents).
    You might have to buy live & freeze them yourself?
  • 10-08-2019, 12:51 AM
    damein
    Re: Frozen feeder lizards??
    Thanks so much for the reply!
    Yeah I've been looking through the week at different places selling live lizards. The Asian vines I'm getting are babies, and no one seems to sell other sizes of the lizards. It's all just "feeder anole" or "house geckos" lol
    I could probably do some digging an email a couple people to see if I can get smaller sizes, but I was just really interested in the Frozen thawed lizard idea.

    As silly as it sounds, I actually have a hard time feeding live lizards. I know they're just anoles and house geckos, but I love them so much lmao
    I can feed off a button quail without so much as a blink. I can feed off any size of rat or Mouse without a problem.
    But the second I have to look at a lizard and feed it to a snake? APPARENTLY THATS WHERE MY LINE WAS!

    I was reading that they're pretty difficult to switch. I'm not at all opposed to starting that battle though! If I can get these guys eating rodents or even button quail, I would be ecstatic.

    I am still extremely curious on the Frozen lizard thing though. If anyone else has anything to add, please do!
  • 10-08-2019, 06:28 AM
    Cheesenugget
    Fyi, Underground advertise a lot of items on their website that they don't have (yet). I know we asked them 2 weeks ago about lizard feeders and they told us they had none, although their website says otherwise. I would call ahead if you are going to order from them. Their rodent feeders are terrible though, wrong size and crushed skinny feeders.
  • 10-08-2019, 08:44 AM
    asplundii
    One thing I would caution you with is that Asian vines are very visually oriented, so trying to get them to eat F/T might be a challenge in and of itself.

    What you might want to look into instead is to start your own colony of anoles or house geckos, that way you have live feeders on hand and, since they are CBB, they would be parasite free
  • 10-08-2019, 09:59 AM
    damein
    Re: Frozen feeder lizards??
    Thank you for the suggestion.
    I have given some thought in breeding my own feeder lizards. House geckos are right up my ally.
    I just dont have the room at this moment to start such a project. But it's definitely on the back burner!
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