this clutch is odd...

[tims balls]

I picked up a pair of adult corns a few months back from the local pet shop because they were locked up. The male is a blizzard, and the female was a snow. These are the only corns I have ever messed with, I really didnt expect anything from the pair, but I got 11 good eggs from her that started hatching yesterday.

Now, I know that a blizzard corn is Amelanistic and anerythristic type b, and the snow is amel and anery, so I was expecting an albino clutch het for both types of anery right?

well, I got these so far, sorry for the crappy pic, I had to use my phone



Like I said, I dont know much about corns at all, but I have at least 3 different types of babies so far. one is all white, but not out the egg yet, looks like albinos, snows, and a visual anery???

[Jsh]

Any photo's of the parents?

[tims balls]

here is the mom pre-lay



unfortunately no pic of the dad. He had a very nasty sore when I bought him that wouldnt go away, so I traded him back to the pet store

[Jason Bowden]

Cool Tim! I thought your were just a BALL man! LOL
I really like the look of the adult snow. The babies should sell easy! Are you gonna hold any back?

[tims balls]

I am all about the balls

I picked them up on an impulse buy. The pair were locked up, so they may as well have said " free snakes" on the glass,lol.

I am gonna hold back a few of them, at least a trio for dinking. I have to admit, seeing 11 eggs pipping was pretty cool, maybe I can make room for another rack......

[Jsh]

Interesting, You reasoning was correct with thinking all amels het anery A & B so I'm clueless. If I were to guess how this was done it would be that she was somehow bred to a normal het snow but you don't have any normals in the cluch so I'm unsure. I guess there is the mystery hets idea but I cant make it work out right. Others might have some insight on this as I'm unsure. Keep us updated and congrats on a nice clutch!!!

[tims balls]

Interesting, You reasoning was correct with thinking all amels het anery A & B so I'm clueless. If I were to guess how this was done it would be that she was somehow bred to a normal het snow but you don't have any normals in the cluch so I'm unsure. I guess there is the mystery hets idea but I cant make it work out right. Others might have some insight on this as I'm unsure. Keep us updated and congrats on a nice clutch!!!

Definitely No normals in this clutch. 10 albinos/ snows or whatever, and the 1 anery. I dunno, genetics are funny sometimes,lol!

so all in all I guess I have
8 albinos DH anery a and b
2 snows het b
1 anery het a or b???

[PythonWallace]

Corns are so prolific, and snows and blizzards are so common that your breeding pair is very likely to be het for things that you don't know about. It looks like your blizzard is at least het for snow. These days, you could buy a trio of cb normal corns and almost expect to hatch out a couple different morphs from breeding the offspring back together. I hatched out a few odd looking snows about 8 years ago from a snow x reverse Okeetee breeding. On the other hand, I've also hatched out amelanistic corns that looked a lot lighter than the rest of the clutch, but darkened up after a few sheds, so they could just be albinos (it's hard to see from the picture), but that's definitely an anery. Congrats on the healthy babies and the nice surprise.

[PythonWallace]

Definitely No normals in this clutch. 10 albinos/ snows or whatever, and the 1 anery. I dunno, genetics are funny sometimes,lol!

so all in all I guess I have
8 albinos DH anery a and b
2 snows het b
1 anery het a or b??? <- also het amelanistic

[Blue Apple Herps]

There is no way a blizzard is the sire of that clutch if that's the mom.

Its possible she was bred with something else that you didn't know about, or a long shot would be retained sperm (but I doubt that).

You correctly point out that blizzard = amel + anery b and snow = amel + anery a. So at the very least you should have 100% amel based morphs. Snows showing up isn't that odd, as it would mean that the blizzard was het anery a. But an anery showing up means the sire wasn't homozygous amel, which means he cannot be a blizzard.

I'd ask the shop you got him from if she was ever paired or housed or even in the same cage for a few minutes with anything else.